[Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Erik Zachte
Pending Revisions conveys that publication is deferred, but not for what reason. Based on only the name it leaves a new editor guessing: maybe there is a server delay and the matter will resolve itself in next twenty minutes? Double Check or Revision Review tells clearly there is human interv

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Alex
On 5/23/2010 8:40 PM, William Pietri wrote: > On 05/23/2010 02:13 PM, David Levy wrote: >> James Alexander wrote: >> >>> That is basically exactly how I see it, most times you "double check" >>> something you are only the 2nd person because the first check is done by the >>> original author. We

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread David Levy
William Pietri wrote: > I think insiders will adjust to any name we choose, as some of our > existing names attest. So I think as long as the name isn't hideous or > actively misleading, then my main criterion is how it comes across to > novices. For them, I'd suspect most will take "double check"

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread William Pietri
On 05/23/2010 06:37 PM, David Levy wrote: > And again, the main problem is ambiguity. "Double Check" can easily > be interpreted to mean that two separate post-submission checks are > occurring. It also is a chess term (and could be mistaken for a a > reference to that concept). > I think in

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread David Levy
William Pietri wrote: > Allow me to quote the whole policy: "If a rule prevents you from > improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it." That implies, in my view > correctly, that the person editing is presumed to set out with the > intention of making the encyclopedia better. > > I think that f

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread William Pietri
On 05/23/2010 02:13 PM, David Levy wrote: > James Alexander wrote: > >> That is basically exactly how I see it, most times you "double check" >> something you are only the 2nd person because the first check is done by the >> original author. We assume good faith, we assume that they are putting

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread David Levy
James Alexander wrote: > That is basically exactly how I see it, most times you "double check" > something you are only the 2nd person because the first check is done by the > original author. We assume good faith, we assume that they are putting > legitimate and correct information into the artic

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread David Levy
Sorry, the correct page is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Terminology David Levy ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread David Levy
Alex wrote: > Except unless we consider the initial edit to be the first check, its > not correct. Only one person independent from the editor is reviewing > each edit. This is one of my main objections to the term. The write-in candidate "Revision Review" appears to combine the best elements of

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Alex wrote: > > Except unless we consider the initial edit to be the first check, its > not correct. Only one person independent from the editor is reviewing > each edit. > > -- > Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) > > That is basically exactly how I see it, most ti

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 23 May 2010 18:03, Pharos wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Philippe Beaudette > wrote: > > tbh, I'm very fond of "Double check". It seems to imply exactly what > > we want: the edit isn't being accepted automatically, nor rejected, > > but simply getting a second look. It's fairly

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Alex
On 5/23/2010 1:58 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > tbh, I'm very fond of "Double check". It seems to imply exactly what > we want: the edit isn't being accepted automatically, nor rejected, > but simply getting a second look. It's fairly neutral in tone, and > understandable to the average p

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Pharos
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > tbh, I'm very fond of "Double check".  It seems to imply exactly what > we want: the edit isn't being accepted automatically, nor rejected, > but simply getting a second look.  It's fairly neutral in tone, and > understandable to the ave

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Philippe Beaudette
tbh, I'm very fond of "Double check". It seems to imply exactly what we want: the edit isn't being accepted automatically, nor rejected, but simply getting a second look. It's fairly neutral in tone, and understandable to the average person. Philippe (speaking in my capacity as a volunteer

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Still Waterising
I think "Pending Revisions" is an excellent name. No need to look further. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Chad
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > Contradiction aside, I think that what you've proven here is that > under no circumstances should any engineer be permitted to name > anything. We should institute this as a rule in Wikimedia development > in general. > Oh why not? We end u

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-23 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:25 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > No, it really isn't a legitimate concern. It wasn't a legitimate concern > when the "AbuseFilter" was enabled and every user had a public "abuse log". > And with that feature came the ability to tag edits. We now mark edits with > generally infla

Re: [Foundation-l] Legal requirements for sexual content -- help, please!

2010-05-23 Thread Ray Saintonge
wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: > Mike Godwin wrote: > >> wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk writes: >> >> Across the world the "Nobody is home" argument is quickly running out of >> >>> steam. Google execs sentenced to 6 months in Italy, LimeWire guilty for >>> its user's piracy, and blog owne