Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > The Usability Initiative was announced, but the search box hardly so. > It was only announced in the technical blog and i actually read it and > tried it in the prototype wiki, but as the prototype wiki says itself, > it is not a real wiki,

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 18:36, Robert Stojnic wrote: > Per bug [1] the drop-down has been reverted to the earlier state, > however this had the unfortunately side-effect of Search button > completely disappearing, and remaining only on Special:Search. Hopefully > we will see this bug fixed in the

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 22:44, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> IIRC, >> when adding a page to the watchlist became AJAX-y two or three years >> ago, it was announced to the community some time before it was enabled >> - and that was a rather smal

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > IIRC, > when adding a page to the watchlist became AJAX-y two or three years > ago, it was announced to the community some time before it was enabled > - and that was a rather small change. I don't remember that, and I was the one who enab

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Magnus Manske
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Svip wrote: > On 16 May 2010 17:14, Svip wrote: >> On 16 May 2010 17:12, Magnus Manske wrote: >>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni >>> wrote: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:11, Svip wrote: > On 16 May 2010 14:06, Amir E. Aharoni > wro

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread AGK
On 16 May 2010 14:50, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > In Vector, search for "begin". You'll get to the page "Begin". There's > no way to actually search Wikipedia for the word "begin" using this > search box. Oh wow. That is a really big bug… AGK ___ foundat

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-16 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Create an account is helpful, but it's a shame we make visually impaired editors jump through another hoop. I would be interested in seeing an audio captcha option. Does such a thing already exist in open source form? [Sorry if this is a top post - on my phone right now] On 5/15/10, K. Peachey

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Robert Stojnic
> Also, I apologise for sending this mail out too quick, but your > suggestion didn't work. Unless you consider the 'AJAX-suggestions' to > be 'search' (which it isn't, btw). > > Per bug [1] the drop-down has been reverted to the earlier state, however this had the unfortunately side-effect o

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Bence Damokos
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Svip wrote: > On 16 May 2010 17:14, Svip wrote: > > On 16 May 2010 17:12, Magnus Manske wrote: > >> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > >> wrote: > >>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:11, Svip wrote: > On 16 May 2010 14:06, Amir E. Aharoni > wr

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Svip
On 16 May 2010 17:14, Svip wrote: > On 16 May 2010 17:12, Magnus Manske wrote: >> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni >> wrote: >>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:11, Svip wrote: On 16 May 2010 14:06, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > But the introduction of the new search box th

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Svip
On 16 May 2010 17:12, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:11, Svip wrote: >>> On 16 May 2010 14:06, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >>> But the introduction of the new search box that practically can't search, was not p

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Magnus Manske
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:11, Svip wrote: >> On 16 May 2010 14:06, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> >>> But the introduction of the new search box that practically can't >>> search, was not part of the beta and it was a complete surprise. Am i

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:11, Svip wrote: > On 16 May 2010 14:06, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> But the introduction of the new search box that practically can't >> search, was not part of the beta and it was a complete surprise. Am i >> badly mistaken? > > After my own attempts, I cannot find any

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-16 Thread emijrp
Interesting thread in Jimbo's talk page[1] from June 2008. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_37#Wikipedia_and_Captcha 2010/5/16 Chad > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Christopher Grant > wrote: > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:09 AM, K. Peachey > wrote: > >> I beli

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Svip
On 16 May 2010 14:06, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > But the introduction of the new search box that practically can't > search, was not part of the beta and it was a complete surprise. Am i > badly mistaken? After my own attempts, I cannot find any issues with the search box. Could you describe your

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:57, Andrew Garrett wrote: > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > > The people who decided to enable without any proper testing and announcement > > the collapsible sidebar that hides interlanguage links, the search box that > > can't search and

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > The people who decided to enable without any proper testing and announcement > the collapsible sidebar that hides interlanguage links, the search box that > can't search and the new Wikipedia logo which nearly everybody hates - > please don

Re: [Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Rui Correia
I am with you on this! I also disagree with the language sidebar being collapsed. The default should be visible language links, if you don't want it, then collapse it. Rui On 16 May 2010 10:19, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > The people who decided to enable without any proper testing and > announcem

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-16 Thread Chad
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Christopher Grant wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:09 AM, K. Peachey wrote: >> I believe reCaptcha has it implemented as part of their service (we >> do/did have a extension to implement theres) but then we would have to >> reply on third party servers. > > Yes

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-16 Thread emijrp
Perhaps, we can offer two captchas. First, the current one, and a link with this label "if you can't read this captcha, try this one" and a link to the sound reCAPTCHA. Requesting an account to admins is not a good solution (perhaps as a third option). Regards, emijrp 2010/5/16 Christopher Grant

[Foundation-l] drive-by site updates

2010-05-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The people who decided to enable without any proper testing and announcement the collapsible sidebar that hides interlanguage links, the search box that can't search and the new Wikipedia logo which nearly everybody hates - please don't do this again. Thank you. -- אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי Am