Brion,
congratulations on your new job, and you sound excited and happy with it, so
that is good :-)
But I must admit that I am sorry to see you go - your commitment to
wikimedia has always been over 100%, if such a thing is possible, and your
personality has always been a pleasure to work with.
Hoi,
Can someone inform me what "Wikimedia Laboratories" is?
Thanks,
GerardM
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> David Gerard wrote:
> > 2009/9/28 :
> >
> >
> >> From the earlier poster Teofilo:
> >>I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full
> >>resolution pictures of Public Domain works.
> >> That seems to be a demand to ha
Best option would be to have two sets, one for Europe and one for the Americas.
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>> 2130 UTC sounds a little late to me if we want Europeans there. We're
>> on daylight saving time for another month (ish), so in Western Europe,
>> that is 2330, finishing at 0030. That's pretty late.
I thought the idea of having two meetings is that at least one would
work, not both. So, the Eu
Brion, thank you for your tremendous work, enthusiasm, and grace, and
congratulations on your new job. StatusNet will be lucky to have you,
and I hope this means among other things that we will see better
integration of real-time communication into platforms such as wikis.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 a
Thanks.? Ok I've found you do that now.
http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Adminship_requests
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2009/9/29 :
>
> You cut off the response.? I was responding directly to the post previous
> where it was stated that crats and admins could poke at this.? So I'm
> wondering why not open it to all established editors.? There are editors who
> have been around a long time and are not admins.
Y
You cut off the response.? I was responding directly to the post previous
where it was stated that crats and admins could poke at this.? So I'm wondering
why not open it to all established editors.? There are editors who have been
around a long time and are not admins.
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2009/9/29 :
>
>
> But not established users ?
Not established users what?
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2009/9/29 Brion Vibber :
> On 9/28/09 5:27 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> 2009/9/29 Brion Vibber:
>>> It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the
>>> configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to
>>> function when I test them.
>>>
>>> Quick steps to try it
But not established users ?
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions)
for English Wikipedia.
On 9/28/09 5:23 PM, Gregor
2009/9/28 Brion Vibber :
> It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the
> configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to
> function when I test them.
Thanks for looking into it, Brion.
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on a friday? :S
2009/9/29 Thomas Dalton
> 2009/9/29 effe iets anders :
> > I think having the thursday meeting one or two more hours later would
> work
> > fine for Europe, so if that works also better for Australia... Not sure
> > about the Friday one, although the next day is weekend. 2130 UTC
On 9/28/09 5:27 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/9/29 Brion Vibber:
>> It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the
>> configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to
>> function when I test them.
>>
>> Quick steps to try it out:
>> [snip]
>
> Where do you
2009/9/29 Thomas Dalton :
> 2009/9/29 Brion Vibber :
>> It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the
>> configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to
>> function when I test them.
>>
>> Quick steps to try it out:
>> [snip]
>
> Where do you want comments?
On 9/28/09 5:23 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>> It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the
>> configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to
>> function when I test them.
>
> Holy crap!
>
> In my defense:
> It's pretty clear that no one was aware that it
On 9/28/09 5:19 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> Brion Vibber wrote:
>> On 9/28/09 5:15 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
>>> I also forwarded this to the English Wikipedia mailing list...
>>
>> Yay! :)
>>
>> Also added on the tech blog:
>>
>> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/flaggedrevs-test-wiki-awaits-you/
>
2009/9/29 effe iets anders :
> I think having the thursday meeting one or two more hours later would work
> fine for Europe, so if that works also better for Australia... Not sure
> about the Friday one, although the next day is weekend. 2130 UTC sounds like
> a good time though.
2130 UTC sounds a
2009/9/29 Brion Vibber :
> It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the
> configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to
> function when I test them.
>
> Quick steps to try it out:
> [snip]
Where do you want comments? I'll put the one I have so far here:
I think having the thursday meeting one or two more hours later would work
fine for Europe, so if that works also better for Australia... Not sure
about the Friday one, although the next day is weekend. 2130 UTC sounds like
a good time though.
2009/9/29 Angela
> > 1) Have the Friday office hours
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
>>> Of course. But I wasn't expecting a turn up on English Wikipedia yet.
>>> I'm asking why the 25 lines of configuration that EnWP specified have
>>> not yet been added to the test wiki at
>>> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Pa
Brion Vibber wrote:
> On 9/28/09 5:15 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
>> I also forwarded this to the English Wikipedia mailing list...
>
> Yay! :)
>
> Also added on the tech blog:
>
> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/flaggedrevs-test-wiki-awaits-you/
Actually it bounced, on account of I am not a s
On 9/28/09 5:15 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> I also forwarded this to the English Wikipedia mailing list...
Yay! :)
Also added on the tech blog:
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/flaggedrevs-test-wiki-awaits-you/
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I also forwarded this to the English Wikipedia mailing list...
Brion Vibber wrote:
> It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the
> configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to
> function when I test them.
>
> Quick steps to try it out:
>
> 1) Find
On 9/28/09 4:57 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> Switching it in for thie page to "The stable revision; if not present,
> then the current/draft one", I now see the little 'sighted' box on the
> article page and have the review interface at the bottom (though some of
> the UI elements haven't been fully c
On 9/28/09 4:57 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> 3) "This page does not have a stable version; page stability settings
> can be configured."<- click this link [ideally that next form will be
> better integrated into the protection form in future]
>
> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Steven Walling
wrote:
> Gregory,
> To address:
>
> "My leading hypothesis were either that the staff was incredibly
> overloaded with new initiatives like usability and strategywiki...WMF's
> priorities have become so warped due to petitioning by niche interests th
On 9/28/09 4:18 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> On 9/28/09 1:04 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it
>>> in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not trivial:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> 2009/9/28 Jimmy Wales :
>> If the Foundation is bottlenecked at the moment (understandable) then
>> how can I help, how can we the community help, to take some of the
>> burden off of them to get done what we need to get done for the sake of
>
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> (Remember when CompuServe and AOL users couldn't email each other? Hah!)
Speaking as a former CompuServe user, I remember those days fondly...
Austin
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Gregory,
To address:
"My leading hypothesis were either that the staff was incredibly
overloaded with new initiatives like usability and strategywiki...WMF's
priorities have become so warped due to petitioning by niche interests that
it can't complete a simple request for its
largest project.."
I
Sounds great!
Erik Moeller wrote:
> 2009/9/28 Jimmy Wales :
>> If the Foundation is bottlenecked at the moment (understandable) then
>> how can I help, how can we the community help, to take some of the
>> burden off of them to get done what we need to get done for the sake of
>> our mission? :-)
2009/9/28 Jimmy Wales :
> If the Foundation is bottlenecked at the moment (understandable) then
> how can I help, how can we the community help, to take some of the
> burden off of them to get done what we need to get done for the sake of
> our mission? :-)
The process going forward is pretty cle
--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Brion Vibber wrote:
> From: Brion Vibber
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Announce: Brion moving to StatusNet
> To: "Wikimedia developers" , "Wikimedia
> Foundation Mailing List" , "MediaWiki
> announcements and site admin list"
> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 1:32 PM
> I'
On 9/28/09 1:04 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> [snip]
>> plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it
>> in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not trivial: The
>> scalability concerns at that size are a
I think I can sum this up in a reasonably NPOV way.
We in the community very very badly want this to happen as quickly as
possible. We had a very long discussion and came to an overwhelming
consensus. We feel frustrated that it is taking so long.
We on the Foundation side of things very very
2009/9/28 Gregory Maxwell :
> "Bad faith" — I don't think those words means what you think they mean.
If it was our intention to not implement Flagged Protection, then we
(WMF) wouldn't have said the opposite publicly. Instead, we would be
communicating about why we're not implementing it. Our onl
On 9/28/09 2:23 PM, Domas Mituzas wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> And you'll still have commit access, so I
>> hope to keep seeing "Revert rXXX, totally broken"
>
> Don't be so harsh on Brion, not every commit of his has been totally
> broken :-)
*reverts domas* :)
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> 1) Have the Friday office hours one hour earlier (from 21:30-22:30 UTC)
> 2) Have the Thursday office hours one hour later (from 17:00-18:00 UTC)
> 3) Keep two sets of office hours the same, we cannot please everyone
> possible!
If you make the Friday one earlier, it becomes more inaccessible to
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> This Thursday, October 1, 2009 between 9:00 AM and 10:00 AM PDT
> (UTC 16:00 and 17:00) Rand Montoya, Wikimedia's fundraiser will be
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It seems that I've gotten complaints that both sets of office hours
times are difficult for Europeans. However, in the interest of having
the broadest participation possible, I'm interested to know how people
feel about one of the following:
1) Have
Aude wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
>
>
>> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
>> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
>> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development on
>
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16:00 and 17:00) Rand Montoya, Wikimedia's fundraiser will be joining us
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Hi!
> And you'll still have commit access, so I
> hope to keep seeing "Revert rXXX, totally broken"
Don't be so harsh on Brion, not every commit of his has been totally
broken :-)
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2009/9/28 Sue Gardner :
> Greg, I really don't want to reply to the specifics of this conversation --
> Brion and Erik and others are much more deeply involved, and therefore better
> situated to respond.
>
> But I will say this: I know some people have speculated, or asked, if the
> Wikimedia F
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:33 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/9/28 Mohamed Magdy :
>
>> This really sucks.
>
>
> Hey, we'll all live, and he's alive and well :-)
>
Yes. But I find it difficult to understand that he leaves wm for some
social networking venture, I hope it is worth it.
I wish you th
Greg, I really don't want to reply to the specifics of this conversation --
Brion and Erik and others are much more deeply involved, and therefore better
situated to respond.
But I will say this: I know some people have speculated, or asked, if the
Wikimedia Foundation is deliberately holding u
I don't really have authority to enable large extensions on large projects.
Also if there are UI improvements needed, then I'll need specific requests
so I know what to do.
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>
> Sue,
>
> I sent the below included inquiry to wikitech-l regarding
> http://flaggedrevs.labs.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>>> and we're also concerned about the potential negative impact on
>>> participation.
>> Please help me understand the implications of this statement.
>
> It simply means that
>
> a) we want to make sure that for the production roll-out, the us
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> 2009/9/28 Brion Vibber :
>> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
>> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
>> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development
On 9/28/09 12:56 PM, Anthony wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Thomas Daltonwrote:
>
>> I was really looking forward to you handing over the
>> administrative part of your job and concentrating on coding, great
>> things would have happened, I'm sure!
>
>
> No reason he can't keep coding.
On 9/28/09 12:53 PM, Sage Ross wrote:
> As Kat Walsh alluded to on ... Facebook?!?... free/libre real-time
> services are more important than a lot of Wikimedians think (because
> we've spent so long pushing back against "merely" social uses of our
> wikis?). In the grand scheme of the things we c
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> [snip]
> > plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it
> > in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not trivial: The
> > scalability concerns a
2009/9/28 Gregory Maxwell :
> Of course. But I wasn't expecting a turn up on English Wikipedia yet.
> I'm asking why the 25 lines of configuration that EnWP specified have
> not yet been added to the test wiki at
> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
I'll review the current state
2009/9/28 Brion Vibber :
> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development on
> the open-source microblogging system which powers id
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
[snip]
> plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it
> in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not trivial: The
> scalability concerns at that size are a step more serious than with
> de.wp,
Of course. B
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I was really looking forward to you handing over the
> administrative part of your job and concentrating on coding, great
> things would have happened, I'm sure!
No reason he can't keep coding. He just won't be paid for it. :)
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Hoi,
Brion thank you for everything and more. I am happy that LocalisationUpdate
is live... but I am sad for all the other things that will be postponed. I
am sad because there are so many things that are waiting to be assessed. I
am happy for you, but to me it feels like MediaWiki meets the truckf
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development on
> the open-source microb
2009/9/28 Michael Snow :
> Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> 2009/9/28 Brion Vibber :
>>
>>> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
>>> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
>>> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading developme
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Mohamed Magdy wrote:
> This really sucks.
>
As Kat Walsh alluded to on ... Facebook?!?... free/libre real-time
services are more important than a lot of Wikimedians think (because
we've spent so long pushing back against "merely" social uses of our
wikis?). In t
Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/9/28 Brion Vibber :
>
>> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
>> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
>> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development on
>> the open-source micr
2009/9/28 Mohamed Magdy :
> This really sucks.
Hey, we'll all live, and he's alive and well :-)
I'm now sending the job opening around my SF contacts ...
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2009/9/28 Brion Vibber :
> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development on
> the open-source microblogging system which powers id
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
> years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
> going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development on
> the open-source microbl
Hi Greg,
a quick note on Sue's behalf since we're all quite swamped right now.
On the tech side of things we're planning for the CTO transition right
now, as well as building up our capacity; those are core
foundation-building priorities that have to be higher than any
specific deployment, particu
Thank you, Brion. Through your many years of volunteering and then
staff work, you've secured your place in Wikimedia history. It's been
a pleasure to work with you over the years, and I'm glad you'll
continue to be involved. As I said privately, I'm happy you've found a
great open source company t
I'd like to share some exciting news with you all... After four awesome
years working for the Wikimedia Foundation full-time, next month I'm
going to be starting a new position at StatusNet, leading development on
the open-source microblogging system which powers identi.ca and other sites.
I've be
On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> IRC office hours for the strategy project are upon us again Our
> next office hours will be: 20:00-21:00 UTC, Tuesday 29 September.
> Local timezones can be checked at
> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=2
Hello list ,
Based on the foundation proposals and the other projects that I am working on,
I have chosen something that I think mixes in with the wikimedia
foundation, creative commons,
opencourseware and openstreetmap.
it is the goal of life long learning and sharing of knowledge, from your hom
Hoi,
The question is if they get it. As it is published for the first time they
could claim copyright.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/9/28 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> David Gerard wrote:
> > 2009/9/28 :
> >
> >
> >> From the earlier poster Teofilo:
> >>I disagree. I think the priority is to have th
David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/9/28 :
>
>
>> From the earlier poster Teofilo:
>>I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full
>>resolution pictures of Public Domain works.
>> That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible.
>>
>
>
> That sets it out as
2009/9/28 :
> From the earlier poster Teofilo:
> I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full
> resolution pictures of Public Domain works.
> That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible.
That sets it out as a goal, not a demand.
But getting back to t
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