Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

Hoi, The one reason why I read the Signpost is because it posts a table of contents on a blog that is aggregated. Advertisement works, it gets it more readers Thanks, GerardM 2009/9/8 Michael Snow > Sage Ross wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas Mituzas > wrote: > > > >> Ge

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/9/7 Bod Notbod : >> Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues? > > Yes. Just put "(This will allow your image to be used on Wikipedia)" > next to the "CC-BY-SA" option. This would suffer from exactly the same problem. _

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

Sage Ross wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote: > >> Gerard, >> >>> Remember, the Signpost is an en.wp publication. It is not really the >>> place >>> to announce such things. >>> >> it is up for Signpost editors if they want to include it or not. Not >> your

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

Bod Notbod wrote: > I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for > use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to The problem with that kind of simplified explanation of what CC-BY-SA means is that content that is "licensed for use on Wikipedia" will be reje

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

It still isn't the place of a third party to police someone else's copyrights. From: Sage Ross To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 3:32:09 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

A CC violation is not everyone's business. If A infringes on B's CC copyright, and party C pokes A about it, A can tell C to bugger off. It's like filing a DMCA notice when you don't own the work. Licensing is an agreement between two entities, not the community.

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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote: > Gerard, > >> Remember, the Signpost is an en.wp publication. It is not really the >> place >> to announce such things. > > it is up for Signpost editors if they want to include it or not. Not > your business :) > > BR, I guess I shouldn't have

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009/9/7 Bod Notbod : > Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues? Yes. Just put "(This will allow your image to be used on Wikipedia)" next to the "CC-BY-SA" option. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009/9/7 Bod Notbod : > That's a very fair comment. > Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues? Indeed. Just note on CC-by and CC-by-sa that they also make it eligible for Wikipedia. Offer a tickbox for asking Wikipedia reviewers to check your image, putting up a list

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:47 PM, wrote: >> That's easily answered. >> >> I'm not "renaming the license". I'm proposing that there be a tick box >> for that very same license with a more friendly tag that tells the >> user "can be used on Wikipedia". The license doesn't change, it's just >> the wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, wrote: > Sage Ross wrote: >> >> If a copyleft license is being violated, that is potentially of >> concern beyond the two legal parties, since properly using the license >> would mean that derivative works are also part of the commons and >> available for others to

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009/9/7 Sage Ross : > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: >> The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for >> whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to >> intervene in a contract between two people and only two peopl

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

Sage Ross wrote: > > If a copyleft license is being violated, that is potentially of > concern beyond the two legal parties, since properly using the license > would mean that derivative works are also part of the commons and > available for others to use and adapt. The problem is that YOU have

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

Bod Notbod wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, wrote: > >>> On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal. >>> >>> I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for >>> use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to >>> >>> a) make their pictures available to us

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, wrote: >> On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal. >> >> I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for >> use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to >> >> a) make their pictures available to us and >> >> b) easier to find

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for > whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to > intervene in a contract between two people and only two people. This kind of attitude s

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > I agree, vigilantism is not necessary and counter productive. The > Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both > for whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third > party to intervene in a contract between two people and only two >

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

Bod Notbod wrote: > On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal. > > I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for > use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to > > a) make their pictures available to us and > > b) easier to find by Wikipedians. > You can

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

I agree, vigilantism is not necessary and counter productive. The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to intervene in a contract between two people and only two people. If the Commons Force re

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

Jovan Cormac wrote: > wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: > >> Secondly, just because YOU think something is PD or licensed under >> Creative Commons does not mean that it is in reality so. For example >> many images on flickr have been lifted from the web and the account >> uploading them fals

Re: [Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open?

We'll know tomorrow whats up. From: Sfmammamia To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 10:27:57 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open? No, the print ad definitely says "Head of Communications" -- in

Re: [Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open?

No, the print ad definitely says "Head of Communications" -- in bold text, at the top of the ad. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Sfmammamia wrote: > > A bit of a mystery -- in Sunday's San Francisco Chronicle, page E-8, > there's > > an ad

Re: [Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Sfmammamia wrote: > A bit of a mystery -- in Sunday's San Francisco Chronicle, page E-8, there's > an ad for the Wikimedia Foundation Head of Communications position. Are you sure it wasn't the "Communications Officer" position?

Re: [Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open?

2009/9/7 Sfmammamia : > All, > > A bit of a mystery -- in Sunday's San Francisco Chronicle, page E-8, there's > an ad for the Wikimedia Foundation Head of Communications position. This ad > does not appear online, at least I could not find a companion posting, > either on the foundation site or on

[Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open?

All, A bit of a mystery -- in Sunday's San Francisco Chronicle, page E-8, there's an ad for the Wikimedia Foundation Head of Communications position. This ad does not appear online, at least I could not find a companion posting, either on the foundation site or on Yahoo (the Chronicle's online ad

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

I met a few people helping out with Wikimania, including the lead photographer on site, who got involved with the local Wikimedia community after their photostream was found on Flickr and incorporated into Wikipedia (es:wp)... Discovering your work has been used by someone else is always a nice ic

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Jovan Cormac wrote: > That's a great idea. They might even do it... Thanks! :o) I can't think of any huge reasons for them not to. I don't think it would reduce their traffic. I suppose there's "why should they?" I think it would be an improvement to the user expe

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

That's a great idea. They might even do it... Cheers, Jovan Cormac Bod Notbod wrote: > On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal. > > I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for > use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to > > a) make their pictures av

Re: [Foundation-l] Be nice

Exactly! Mwuahaha!!! 2009/9/5 Paul Williams > Okie dokie. > > 2009/9/5 Lodewijk > > > please! > > ___ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:42 PM, David Gerard wrote: > That would describe the person who started this thread, who has stated > elsewhere that anything whatsoever he does on any WMF site is only for > the purpose of trolling. Was that the form of words used? I'd be interested to know the exact qu

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal. I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to a) make their pictures available to us and b) easier to find by Wikipedians. It could be argued that it should say "licen

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

For static timed text mv-embed library works reasonably well. It has a simple interface for selecting the text track / language. What remains to be done is an interface for people to collaboratively edit and contribute the original transcript and translations. (some work has been done in that a

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009/9/7 Bod Notbod : > I wonder what motivates this kind of thread. Do those who regularly > seek to pick out any inconsistency or "failure" to communicate > actually /like/ Wikipedia, or do they have some grudge against the > whole enterprise? That would describe the person who started this th

Re: [Foundation-l] CommonsForce

Precisely. I'm glad you understand. In fact, it's not about fighting copyfraud (i.e. people and institutions who claim copyright while knowing about public domain) at all - it's about educating those who *don't* know about it. There will be no need to fight any battles at all, since a good port

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Too many people attribute to malice what is completely explained by > fuckups. WMF actually does better than most charities of comparable > staffing and funding ... Yes, that's the way I view it too. Most of these attacking threads could be a

Re: [Foundation-l] CommonsForce

Hoi, You do not set out to "educate" the UK National Portrait Gallery or any other "hydra head". What you do is you engage GLAM and it helps when there is a damn good introduction into the subject of copyright and licensing. At the same time you have to engage in educating people why GLAMs are impo

Re: [Foundation-l] CommonsForce

2009/9/7 Klaus Graf : > I applaud fighting against Copyfraud but will it make sense to educate > e.g. the UK National Portrait Gallery? The Hydra Copyfraud has too > many heads. There are times when it's prudent to let these things rest in a state of quantum uncertainty, e.g. when dealing with a

[Foundation-l] CommonsForce

I applaud fighting against Copyfraud but will it make sense to educate e.g. the UK National Portrait Gallery? The Hydra Copyfraud has too many heads. Klaus Graf http://archiv.twoday.net ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsu