Re: [Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia

2009-08-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/22 David Gerard : > 2009/8/21 Thomas Dalton : > >> Milestones are important, especially for PR purposes. We just need to >> work out which milestones should be emphasised. For small Wikipedias >> number of articles is probably a good choice, for larger ones, >> particularly the English Wikip

[Foundation-l] Leaked UK Ordnance Survey report on freeing map data

2009-08-21 Thread David Gerard
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/New_Digital_Master_Map_for_Great_Britian:_Confidential_Advice_to_Ministers%2C_2009 This is a survey that they didn't want made public, about the costs and benefits of releasing map data. They've clearly fiddled the cost numbers. Now to try to get accountability for the cl

Re: [Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia

2009-08-21 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/21 Thomas Dalton : > Milestones are important, especially for PR purposes. We just need to > work out which milestones should be emphasised. For small Wikipedias > number of articles is probably a good choice, for larger ones, > particularly the English Wikipedia, it probably isn't. I'd l

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/21 Michael Snow : > I can speak from a bit of personal experience here. Between the Dutch > chapter, Jan-Bart, and people on the technical team like Mark and Roan, > the Dutch were well represented at the meetings in Berlin in April. At > one point I decided to invade a table full of Dutch

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Kaare Olsen
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:35:03 +0200 Svip wrote: > I much appreciate the effort. And it is possible that the Danish > localisation is in better shape than last time I checked (which was a > little over a year ago). I know several people have worked on it, on and off, but proof-reading should cer

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Kaare Olsen
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:33:34 +0200 Gerard Meijssen wrote: > The only relevant local localisations are the ones that provide > specific information about that project. All the other localisations > are suspect because they often no longer reflect the original > message. Regularly messages change t

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-21 Thread Joshua Gay
> > Interesting, I didn't know that. Is this demo available somewhere? Here is a demo of it up and running: http://ol.fkbuild.com/w/index.php/Main_Page Click edit and then click on the OL button on the tool bar and enter a search item. Also, I think someone I shared this with had trouble gettin

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Snow
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Svip wrote: > >> I guess I am too busy maintaining my own wiki as well. Maybe a choice >> to attract editors would be similar to that of the Swedish and >> Norwegian wikis. That, and I'd like to see more appreciation of the >> Danish language from the Danes thems

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
.. I answered too quickly ... information in his upcoming Wikimania presentation Thanks, Gerard 2009/8/21 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi, > I know that the information provided by Erik Zachte will provide ample > information about that > Thanks, > Geard > > 2009/8/21 Jussi-Ville Heis

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I know that the information provided by Erik Zachte will provide ample information about that Thanks, Geard 2009/8/21 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > Svip wrote: > > > > I guess I am too busy maintaining my own wiki as well. Maybe a choice > > to attract editors would be similar to that

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Svip wrote: > > I guess I am too busy maintaining my own wiki as well. Maybe a choice > to attract editors would be similar to that of the Swedish and > Norwegian wikis. That, and I'd like to see more appreciation of the > Danish language from the Danes themselves. I hear Dutch is under the > sa

Re: [Foundation-l] $500, 000 operational support from Hewlett Foundation

2009-08-21 Thread Lennart Guldbrandsson
Good work and kudos to the Hewletts. /Lennart 2009/8/21 Thomas Dalton > 2009/8/21 Erik Moeller : > > The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation has decided to generously > > support us with $500,000 in operational funding. More information in > > the press release: > > > > > http://wikimediafound

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Kaare Olsen
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:08:08 +0200 Svip wrote: > > So I do think Kaare is spot on to suggest it is an extraordinary > > claim that lack of localizations is driving away Danish editors, > > and as such requires extraordinary proof! Have there been > > beginning Danish wiki-editors complaining abou

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Svip
2009/8/21 Kaare Olsen : > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:32:47 +0200 > Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >> Given that on Februari first 96.07% of the most used messages were >> localised, it is clear that some of the most used messages were not >> even localised. Consequently your puh puh reaction that only the r

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The only relevant local localisations are the ones that provide specific information about that project. All the other localisations are suspect because they often no longer reflect the original message. Regularly messages change their text, add parameters, are using new internationalisation f

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Kaare Olsen
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:32:47 +0200 Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Given that on Februari first 96.07% of the most used messages were > localised, it is clear that some of the most used messages were not > even localised. Consequently your puh puh reaction that only the rare > messages are affected is n

Re: [Foundation-l] Closure of projects

2009-08-21 Thread Ray Saintonge
effe iets anders wrote: > 2009/8/20 Gerard Meijssen > >> if they vote that >> I will wear a tutu at Wikimania and a consensus says that I should, >> > one vote against! Please not... Gee! I saw that, and was about to support the motion if it comes up. Ec

Re: [Foundation-l] $500, 000 operational support from Hewlett Foundation

2009-08-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/21 Erik Moeller : > The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation has decided to generously > support us with $500,000 in operational funding. More information in > the press release: > > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Hewlwett_Fdn_grant_August_2009 > > This is not a project-b

Re: [Foundation-l] $500, 000 operational support from Hewlett Foundation

2009-08-21 Thread Mohamed Magdy
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation has decided to generously > support us with $500,000 in operational funding. More information in > the press release: > > > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Hewlwett_Fdn_grant_August_

Re: [Foundation-l] Closure of projects

2009-08-21 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:30 PM, effe iets anders wrote: >> if they vote that >> I will wear a tutu at Wikimania and a consensus says that I should, > > > one vote against! Please not... '''Strong keep''' - We can uppload pics to Commons and add to [[ballet]]. I've heard he has nice knees. [[Us

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-21 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: > > I think it would be easy to build upon this work and one could do a really > powerful MW extension (and maybe some new templates, etc) that would allow > people to contribute to both MW and OL simultaneously. > > I think that the OL should cont

[Foundation-l] $500, 000 operational support from Hewlett Foundation

2009-08-21 Thread Erik Moeller
The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation has decided to generously support us with $500,000 in operational funding. More information in the press release: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Hewlwett_Fdn_grant_August_2009 This is not a project-based grant like the Stanton and Ford

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-21 Thread Yann Forget
Joshua Gay wrote: > David Strauss did a quick implementation (basically a demo) of an > OpenLibrary extension for MediaWiki. In very little amount of code, he was > able to easily search the OL (via AJAX) and when the user selected a given > result, it poppulated a Citation template. What was nice

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-21 Thread Joshua Gay
David Strauss did a quick implementation (basically a demo) of an OpenLibrary extension for MediaWiki. In very little amount of code, he was able to easily search the OL (via AJAX) and when the user selected a given result, it poppulated a Citation template. What was nice is that when no results ca

Re: [Foundation-l] Closure of projects

2009-08-21 Thread effe iets anders
2009/8/20 Gerard Meijssen > if they vote that > I will wear a tutu at Wikimania and a consensus says that I should, one vote against! Please not... ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia

2009-08-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/20 Erik Zachte : > Too often I see people bragging how they managed to 'one up' another > Wikipedia in the rankings. > I think it would help if we discouraged any bragging on the 4th millionth > article in the English Wikipedia at all and downplayed any inquiries from > the media. Milestone

Re: [Foundation-l] How much of Wikipedia is vandalized? 0.4% of Articles

2009-08-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/21 Anthony : >> If we are only interested in whether the most >> recent revision is vandalised then that is a simpler problem but would >> require a much larger sample to get the same quality of data. > > > How much larger?  Do you know anything about this, or you're just guessing? >  The nu

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-21 Thread Yann Forget
Lars Aronsson wrote: > Yann Forget wrote: > >> As I already said, the first steps would be to import existing >> databases, and Wikimedians are very good at this job. > > Do you have a bibliographic database (library catalog) of French > literature that you can upload? How many records? Convi

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
dex2000 wrote: > > Allow me to suggest that some explanation for the lag in article numbers and > contributors is the fact that Danish summers are more sunny and winters less > severe than is the case in our northern neighbourhood :-) . > > Well, that explanation would have the collateral benef

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Anders Wennersten
When I analyze different language version I have developed a small model dividing up the versions into being in one out of three development phases -The buildup phase where mostly just more articles are added. Most of the bigger versions have left this phase but many newer one are still in this.

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread Svip
2009/8/21 Ole Palnatoke Andersen : > I assume that your contributions have been made under another username > or anonymously, as I do not recall seeing anything from Bruger:Svip. My username on all Wikimedia wikis is "Svippong". Svip was unfortunately taken. 2009/8/21 dex2000 : > The merits of l