Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > Gregory Maxwell wrote: >> I'm interested in knowing the nature of the error (understanding is >> the key to avoidance in the future!) > > It was my fault, and it was pretty much identical to the error I made > in 2007, where certain kinds of ed

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Tim Starling
Gregory Maxwell wrote: > I'm interested in knowing the nature of the error (understanding is > the key to avoidance in the future!) It was my fault, and it was pretty much identical to the error I made in 2007, where certain kinds of edits were double-counted and so the effective edit count thresh

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/12 Gregory Maxwell : > I too agree that there is an obligation to contact, hopefully with > enough time to respond and point out an error,  but I don't believe > that the the contact must be absolutely immediate. I agree that there is no real need for it to be immediate, but in most cases I

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/12 Sue Gardner : > I definitely sympathize with people wanting to be connected and aware of > what's going on with the staff. I'd be curious to know what kinds of > information people find most useful of what we publish today, and what you'd > like to see more of -- and also what you thin

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Sue Gardner
(Adding to what Michael said.) Yes, we're trying to catch up. May will be posted tomorrow, and June is being worked on right now. These reports started off as simple staff activity reports (when I joined the Foundation two years ago), and when the staff was small they were fairly easy to put t

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/8/12 Gregory Maxwell : >> It is my understanding that the parties incorrectly stricken >> previously were not contacted. I believe that an attempt should be >> made to contact stricken parties, even if it means delaying the >> results. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > I am interested in the specific nature of the coding error, for > example "The script applied the wrong cutoff date" or "edits across > multiple projects for the 600 edit criteria were merged based on UID > rather than username" or "users f

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/12 Gregory Maxwell : > It is my understanding that the parties incorrectly stricken > previously were not contacted. I believe that an attempt should be > made to contact stricken parties, even if it means delaying the > results. Really? That amazes me. Surely everyone that has their vote s

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: >> I'm interested in knowing the nature of the error (understanding is >> the key to avoidance in the future!) >> >> I'd also like to know if any users were denied the ability to vote who >> should have been permitted on account of this er

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: >> [Greg] >> I'm interested in knowing the nature of the error (understanding is >> the key to avoidance in the future!) >> >> I'd also like to know if any users were denied the ability to vote who >> should have been permitted on account

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Brian
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Philippe Beaudette < pbeaude...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> > > > > I'm interested in knowing the nature of the error (understanding is > > the key to avoidance in the future!) > > > > I'd also like to know if any users were denied the ability to vote who > > should

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette
>> > > I'm interested in knowing the nature of the error (understanding is > the key to avoidance in the future!) > > I'd also like to know if any users were denied the ability to vote who > should have been permitted on account of this error? > > It wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
Betsy Megas wrote: > Due to an error in a script that was used to generate the list of > authorized voters for this election, roughly 300 votes were cast by > users who were not qualified based on the posted election rules > (requiring that voters have made at least 600 edits before 01 June > 2009

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

2009-08-11 Thread Austin Hair
Forwarded from Betsy Megas, who's subscribed under a different address. Please read. Austin -- Forwarded message -- From: Betsy Megas Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:26 PM Subject: Election vote strikes To: "foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org" Due to an error in a script t

Re: [Foundation-l] Block update

2009-08-11 Thread stevertigo
Tom and I don't agree on everything. In fact he's been the most vocal critic of the disputes-l idea. The important difference being that he doesnt just whine about other people's ideas/discussions/issues, rather he tries To compose reasoned and sound objections and alternatives. -Steven On 8/10/09

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Michael Snow
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/8/12 Benjamin Lees : > >> I really like these reports, but they'd be more useful if they came sooner >> after the events they describe. Will you be able to catch up to a <1-month >> delay in the near future? (I wouldn't mind if the reports for May, June, and >> July

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/12 Benjamin Lees : > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > >> Report to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees >> >> Covering:               April 2009 >> Prepared by:            Sue Gardner, Executive Director, Wikimedia >> Foundation >> Prepared for:   Wikimedia Founda

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-11 Thread Lars Aronsson
Samuel Klein wrote: > I think we agree on what needs to happen. The only thing I am > not sure of is where you would like to see the work take place. I'm not so sure we agree. I think we're talking about two different things. This thread started out with a discussion of why it is so hard to

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > Report to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees > > Covering: April 2009 > Prepared by:Sue Gardner, Executive Director, Wikimedia > Foundation > Prepared for: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees > I really

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Dan Rosenthal
I want to echo Thomas's remarks. It is certainly a fine line to balance, and I am glad that the donor's concerns are on your mind. I also want to reiterate my support for an endowment. I'm not going to preach at anyone here (least of all you and Veronique) the benefits of having one, but I'

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/12 Veronique Kessler : > Your comment is very timely.  We are, and have been, thinking about the > best solution regarding extra money.  First, we want to consider an > appropriate "reserve" amount, i.e. this can range from 3 months of > expenses for some organizations to 2 years for others.

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Veronique Kessler
Your comment is very timely. We are, and have been, thinking about the best solution regarding extra money. First, we want to consider an appropriate "reserve" amount, i.e. this can range from 3 months of expenses for some organizations to 2 years for others. So, we are discussing this; ther

[Foundation-l] Donation Button Enhancement Update

2009-08-11 Thread Rand Montoya
Hey All-- We've made some modifications to the process and time line for the Donation Button Enhancement project. You can find and comment on them here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2009/Donation_buttons_upgrade I appreciate all the feedback so far. -Rand -- Rand Montoya Hea

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Sue Gardner
2009/8/11 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/8/11 Sue Gardner : >> FUNDRAISING, GRANTS, & PARTNERSHIPS >> >> During April, the Wikimedia Foundation received 922 donations, with a >> combined total value of USD 78,453.   Year-to-date, the Wikimedia >> Foundation has raised USD 5,491415 in donations from individ

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/11 Sue Gardner : > FUNDRAISING, GRANTS, & PARTNERSHIPS > > During April, the Wikimedia Foundation received 922 donations, with a > combined total value of USD 78,453.   Year-to-date, the Wikimedia > Foundation has raised USD 5,491415 in donations from individuals, 37% > above the full-year t

[Foundation-l] Report to the Board April 2009

2009-08-11 Thread Sue Gardner
Report to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Covering: April 2009 Prepared by:Sue Gardner, Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation Prepared for: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees MILESTONES FROM APRIL 1.Berlin Board and Chapters meeting 1.Licensing update

Re: [Foundation-l] Positive mention of Wikimedia sites in a web privacy study:

2009-08-11 Thread Brion Vibber
On 8/11/09 2:13 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Kudos to the WMF for avoiding gratuitous reader tracking. Other > people *are* paying attention to the privacy implications of this kind > of user-invisible behavior. Yay! Quick note: the only sort of user tracking that we would be interested in doin

Re: [Foundation-l] [ol-discuss] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Onion sourcing. That would be a nice improvement on simple cite styles. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Gregory Crane wrote: > There are various layers to this onion. The key element is that books and > pages are artifacts in many cases. What we really want are the logical > structures that sp

[Foundation-l] Positive mention of Wikimedia sites in a web privacy study:

2009-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
This paper is making the rounds: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1446862 "This is a pilot study of the use of “Flash cookies” by popular websites. We find that more than 50% of the sites in our sample are using flash cookies to store information about the user. Some are using i

Re: [Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-11 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> >> An interesting concept.  It's hard to replace an open collaborative >> process, but I think this is a subject worthy of a planning workshop > > This of course is why open democracies a

[Foundation-l] Google updates web search

2009-08-11 Thread Hay (Husky)
Google has put a preview online of a new version of their search engine, with a new infrastructure: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/08/help-test-some-next-generation.html You can test it here: http://www2.sandbox.google.com/ Things are a lot faster, and the results differ from t

Re: [Foundation-l] [ol-discuss] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-11 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > I see CC-NC... > > http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3atext%3a2003.02.0004 > > Too bad. Well, they can't copyright what is in the PD. There is little about the XML in TEI format that can be called "creative", and any non-f

Re: [Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-11 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > The current active community is largely here for reasons of belief in > our core mission.   There are so many important and interesting > projects that we don't have time as a community to address -- if some > new group comes along and starts a

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] The end of donations

2009-08-11 Thread Mark Williamson
+1. skype: node.ue On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, The Cunctator wrote: > Cmon, keep your whining prudishness for another thread. Sheesh. > > On 7/31/09, stevertigo wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Walter Vermeir wrote: >> >>> An other way would be that Wikimedia is funded by some

Re: [Foundation-l] [ol-discuss] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-11 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:32 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >>... >> Let's take a practical example.  A classics professor I know (Greg >> Crane, copied here) has scans of primary source materials, some with >> approximate or hand-polished OCR, wai

Re: [Foundation-l] [ol-discuss] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics

2009-08-11 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >... > Let's take a practical example.  A classics professor I know (Greg > Crane, copied here) has scans of primary source materials, some with > approximate or hand-polished OCR, waiting to be uploaded and converted > into a useful online resou