Re: [Foundation-l] Quality of community-created help pages (was: Recommending a Browser...)

2009-07-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Sage Ross wrote: > Cross-posting to Wikien-l... > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> Unfortunately, >> community-created help pages tend to accumulate vast amounts of >> instruction cruft that distracts from simple high-level information. > >

[Foundation-l] Quality of community-created help pages (was: Recommending a Browser...)

2009-07-09 Thread Sage Ross
Cross-posting to Wikien-l... On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Unfortunately, > community-created help pages tend to accumulate vast amounts of > instruction cruft that distracts from simple high-level information. Maybe it's time English Wikipedia (at least) created a set of

Re: [Foundation-l] Google CC Search

2009-07-09 Thread K. Peachey
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Tris Thomas wrote: > > Could be useful? > > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/find-creative-commons-images-with-image.html > The creative commons search engine[1] allows searching on multiple different sites at once, so that might be a better tool to recommen

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
geni geniice at gmail.com wrote: > I assume you are pointing to the "Downpreffed VLC because it crashes > my browser all the damn time -- TS" comment. > Still another problem with recommending an option is well when this happens: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Videoscreengrab_of_Morris_C8

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/7/9 Michael Dale : > Presently the proposed solution is to soft link to the Mozilla Firefox > browser: see mockup: > http://metavid.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/upgrade_to_firefox.png > or see it in action: > http://metavid.org/wiki/File:FolgersCoffe_512kb.1496.ogv My preference would

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread geni
2009/7/10 David Gerard : > 2009/7/9 David Gerard : >> 2009/7/9 geni : > >>> Mention VLC plugin perhaps? > >> Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of >> pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in >> practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongl

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/9 David Gerard : > 2009/7/9 geni : >> Mention VLC plugin perhaps? > Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of > pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in > practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongly > suggest you read the wikitech-

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread geni
2009/7/9 David Gerard : > 2009/7/9 geni : > >> Mention VLC plugin perhaps? > > > Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of > pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in > practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongly > suggest you read the wikit

[Foundation-l] Google CC Search

2009-07-09 Thread Tris Thomas
Could be useful? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/find-creative-commons-images-with-image.html ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/9 geni : > Mention VLC plugin perhaps? Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongly suggest you read the wikitech-l thread. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread geni
2009/7/9 David Gerard : > 2009/7/9 geni : > >> Promoting any one browser for any reason is kinda dicey. Given how >> contentious browser wars are it wouldn't look to good from the POV of >> remaining neutral. Has anyone managed to work the firefox code into >> Konqueror yet? > > > Konqueror isn't a

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/9 geni : > Promoting any one browser for any reason is kinda dicey. Given how > contentious browser wars are it wouldn't look to good from the POV of > remaining neutral. Has anyone managed to work the firefox code into > Konqueror yet? Konqueror isn't a serious suggestion as a casual ins

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread geni
2009/7/9 Michael Dale : > There has been a technical discussion on wikitech-l regarding the > recommendation of a browser for the high quality open video experience. > > Some native implementations are ~presently~ non optimal and the java > cortado applet we use where no native support is available

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/9 Michael Dale : > * Google Chromium -- supports h.264 and ogg theora video natively. Again > ogg performance is not very high quality. It uses the ffmpeg library > which features a non-optimal theora decoder. Things like seeking > presently don't work very reliably. Does Chromium actuall

[Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Dale
There has been a technical discussion on wikitech-l regarding the recommendation of a browser for the high quality open video experience. Some native implementations are ~presently~ non optimal and the java cortado applet we use where no native support is available is a poor user experience rel

[Foundation-l] EN Wikizine - Year: 2009 Week: 28 Number: 111

2009-07-09 Thread EN Wikizine
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[Foundation-l] Meadow Mari Wikipedia

2009-07-09 Thread Milos Rancic
First, I want to thank to Tim who created the project [1] today. Tomorrow is the main cultural event for Meadow Maris and they will have Wikipedia for that day. Because of that, I asked the Board and WMF tech staff to create the project more quickly than usually. Meadow Mari [2] is one of three Fi

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia: A quantity analysis

2009-07-09 Thread Crazy Lover
Below it is a Doctoral Thesis that analize quantitatively the evolution of top ten Wikipedias, an their problems (in English): http://libresoft.es/Members/jfelipe/thesis-wkp-quantanalysis C.m.l. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lis

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Anders Wennersten wrote: > I also like this approach > *On most informal level - a Working  Group, carefully organized under a > "Working Group Organizer" who has a time-limited agreement/recognition > letter with the Foundation > *On intermediate level - a legally

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard : > It could be assimilated to the way organisations partner up to answer > EU grants for example. Each keeps their autonomy, but they all work > together towards a common goal. Call it "support" or "partnership", > not "recognition", that probably makes more sense. Yes, "

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:41, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard : >>> I think a formal "Association of Catalan Wikimedians", recognised by >>> the WMF as an "affiliated organisation" and with something quite >>> similar to the chapters agreement would work well. Calling it a >>> chapt

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard : >> I think a formal "Association of Catalan Wikimedians", recognised by >> the WMF as an "affiliated organisation" and with something quite >> similar to the chapters agreement would work well. Calling it a >> chapter will cause problems, since it overlaps with other chap

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:18, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard : >> The issue here is that, in the Catalan case for example, the effort is >> already beyond just a "working group". You have a group of people who >> are more than mature to have their own organisation and make it >> su

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard : > The issue here is that, in the Catalan case for example, the effort is > already beyond just a "working group". You have a group of people who > are more than mature to have their own organisation and make it > succesful. What they lack is "legitimity" under the Wikimed

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Anders Wennersten
I also like this approach *On most informal level - a Working Group, carefully organized under a "Working Group Organizer" who has a time-limited agreement/recognition letter with the Foundation *On intermediate level - a legally recognized organizations that could support an interest group, th

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 04:11, Pharos wrote: > I think a possible solution for this kind of thing might be "Working > Groups", each carefully organized under a "Working Group Organizer" > who has a time-limited charter to lead such a group. > > The issue here is that when dealing with a small unorga