Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-22 Thread Platonides
Anthony wrote: > (although I still haven't seen the WMF step up > to the plate and make it easy for people to make a full history fork, or > even to download all the images) You'll find full history dumps of almost all wikis at http://download.wikimedia.org/ Although not trivial, downloading all

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-22 Thread Dan Rosenthal
The statute supports that as well, providing a private right of action and civil remedy. It's not entirely that cut and dry (there are certain restrictions that must be met) but yeah, it appears that in some cases TOS violations can be illegal. -Dan On Jun 22, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Mark Wagner w

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 14:35, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Brian wrote: >> That is against the law. It violates Google's ToS. >> >> I'm mostly complaining that Google is being Very Evil. There is nothing we >> can do about it except complain to them. Which I don't know how to do - they >> apparently bel

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-22 Thread Platonides
Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:54 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > >> Whether Google is good or evil is off-topic, and irrelevant to boot. >> > > Whether or not they have a right to exclude bots isn't. > > Also worth noting, Project Gutenberg has digitised less than 30,000 >> books sinc

Re: [Foundation-l] Video from Wikimedia?

2009-06-22 Thread Casey Brown
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:32 AM, John at Darkstar wrote: > There are some posts about a new video solution, and even more posts > that ... err ... isn't quite correct, but without any official news > about it its impossible to tell the newspapers whats correct and whats not. > As far as I know, th

[Foundation-l] Video from Wikimedia?

2009-06-22 Thread John at Darkstar
There are some posts about a new video solution, and even more posts that ... err ... isn't quite correct, but without any official news about it its impossible to tell the newspapers whats correct and whats not. I especially like an article saying "from Wikimedia Foundation who made Wikipedia". I

Re: [Foundation-l] Iran?

2009-06-22 Thread Nikola Smolenski
David Gerard wrote: > 2009/6/21 Ray Saintonge : >> Sure, transparency is a problem, but its absence alone does not imply >> fraud. It hurts the Iranian authorities even more if the vote count is >> accurate because nobody believes them. > > Evidence the numbers were made up: humans are not very g

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] flagged revisions

2009-06-22 Thread Ziko van Dijk
> > > And thus, flaggedrevs would not provide nearly any added > disincentive for vandals, but would add workload for the > good faith editors, and slow down content production. > > > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > > This is not likely to happen. Our experiences on de.WP show that the change in the work p

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] flagged revisions

2009-06-22 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> What I *am* saying - and I suspect none of my countrymen > would dispute me in this - is that in Finland vandals are > vastly overrun by people of good faith editing and cleaning > after the vandals. So much so that the vandals effect is > easily negligible. Negligible over the long term, but