Yes, but you also said:
"The one thing I would say is that gettin unencumbered
material that was only encumbered by the encoding it was
being carried by to formats that are free, is a net plus, no
matter if it meant we were also carrying the encumbered
format version."
I'm quite sure that the net
Brian wrote:
> How is that different from:
> "[...] if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the encoding, we
> should embrace [...]"
>
>
You forgot the bit about liberating it.
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>> Brian wrote:
>>
How is that different from:
"[...] if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the encoding, we
should embrace [...]"
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > Pretty sure we are saying the same thing - what part of my comment struck
> > the wrong chor
Brian wrote:
> Pretty sure we are saying the same thing - what part of my comment struck
> the wrong chord with you?
>
I think it is the " we should accept free content in any format."
bit. ;-)
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>> Brian wrote:
Pretty sure we are saying the same thing - what part of my comment struck
the wrong chord with you?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > I hold the same sort of pragmatic view. In the absence of freely licensed
> > content encoded in a free format we s
Brian wrote:
> I hold the same sort of pragmatic view. In the absence of freely licensed
> content encoded in a free format we should accept free content in any
> format. I think it would take a revolution within the Foundation staff and
> the most vocal parts of the community (note that I did not
I hold the same sort of pragmatic view. In the absence of freely licensed
content encoded in a free format we should accept free content in any
format. I think it would take a revolution within the Foundation staff and
the most vocal parts of the community (note that I did not say majority),
though
Tim Starling wrote:
>
> Some people in the community take the view that supporting proprietary
> standards, as an option alongside free standards, weakens the ability
> of the free standards to compete for mindshare and client support, and
> thus that it shouldn't be done. We would have to have tha
Wouldn't it be nicely ironic if the Internet decided to block China? I
wonder how it would play, when the Chinese government offices used to
unrestricted access suddenly found themselves surfing the Chinese Intranet
behind the Great Firewall blocking Chinese traffic from the rest of the
world...
A
This may be of interest to some Wikimedia contributors. The Digital
Open is a competition for youth (under 17) around the world to create
innovative free & open technology projects. There's an associated
online contest that is running this summer (I'm a judge :)). The call
below is for "stewards" t
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Kul Takanao Wadhwa wrote:
> We have been talking about how we survived being blocked by the Chinese
> government during the last June 4th ban but now this is on the table. We
> have to see how this will now affect us.
>
AFAIK, the software [1] they may use, does no
hmm.. it will be a one-two click install directly from the upload page.
(if the user is using Firefox). Then it works exactly the same as the
existing upload interface only it transcodes the video as it uploads
Yea it would be good to support both; and yes we should simplify upload
work-flo
2009/6/8 Brian :
> I presume the WMF has a large amount of free disk space. How much?
Hard drives are cheap, the WMF can just buy more if that is all that is needed.
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Firefogg is not a very usable solution for most users. It requires far too
much sophistication. Users should be able to just upload video that they
know is under a free license and then everything else happens on the
backend.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Michael Dale wrote:
> We have done a g
We have done a good amount of work with archive.org to ensure that their
archive is interpretable. I know from the present vantage point it does
not seem helpful to have media on archive.org... but as features like
the add_media_wizard get deployed it will make a lot more sense why it
does not
2009/6/8 Brian :
> I don't think that's all that's needed. There will be Wikimedians scouring
> the Internet for all free video in all of its forms (of which there is quite
> a lot) and uploading it to Commons. You'll need an entire encoding farm.
> Hard drives are cheap, its true, but redundant s
I don't think that's all that's needed. There will be Wikimedians scouring
the Internet for all free video in all of its forms (of which there is quite
a lot) and uploading it to Commons. You'll need an entire encoding farm.
Hard drives are cheap, its true, but redundant storage is less cheap as a
I presume the WMF has a large amount of free disk space. How much?
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Michael Dale wrote:
> I am definitely not opposed to adding in that functionality as I have
> mentioned in the past:
> see thread:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org/msg00
I am definitely not opposed to adding in that functionality as I have
mentioned in the past:
see thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org/msg00888.html
You should take a look at the work Mike Baynton did back in summer of
code 07.
The issue that we have is both the Bo
Hi!
> Couldn't the stats job you want run on toolserver?
Really, this isn't much of foundation-l issue - we have been
collecting and providing detailed article viewership statistics for
over a year.
People are building various applications on top of that data, like
http://wikirank.com/en/Jim
We have been talking about how we survived being blocked by the Chinese
government during the last June 4th ban but now this is on the table. We
have to see how this will now affect us.
June 9, 2009
China Requires Censoring Software on New PCs
By ANDREW JACOBS
BEIJING — China has issued a swee
Couldn't the stats job you want run on toolserver?
Peter Gervai wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I wasn't subscribed to this list, since I usually try to avoid the
> politics around.
>
> I was notified, however, that some interesting claims were made and
> some steps taken (again) without any discussion what
News article linked in the first post said they'd already enrolled over 200
students; FAQ says its capped at 300, so I imagine its reached its cap by
now.
>Moushira wrote: "Enrollment deadline for fall semester hasn't yet
passed!!"
~Nathan
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2009/6/8 Moushira Elamrawy :
> University website: http://www.uopeople.org
>
> Currently providing two academic programs; computer science track and
> business admin. Enrollment deadline for fall semester hasn't yet
> passed!!
"[T]he University of the People does not presently confer degrees." [1]
University website: http://www.uopeople.org
Currently providing two academic programs; computer science track and
business admin. Enrollment deadline for fall semester hasn't yet
passed!!
Regards,
Moushira
On 6/8/09, David Gerard wrote:
> http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30848
>
> F
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30848
Free tuition, admission fee, testing fee. No word on freedom of
materials. Anyone know more about details of this? Something we can
help with?
- d.
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 16:06, Tim Starling wrote:
>> As a technical sidenote, it should be mentioned that recoding a lossy
>> format to another lossy format results _always_ a worse quality output
>> than the source lossy format. The amount of quality loss depends on
>> countless factors and usuall
Peter Gervai wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 17:26, David Gerard wrote:
>> It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that
>> allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them
>> as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis.
>
> As a technical sidenote, it should be mentioned
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 14:54, David Gerard wrote:
> Well, yeah. But until cameras or phones start recording Ogg Theora
> natively, we're likely stuck with this.
As another tidbit, I have a music player ("mp3 player") which records
and plays ogg (not Theora though). :-)
But you're right, most user
2009/6/8 Peter Gervai :
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 17:26, David Gerard wrote:
>> It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that
>> allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them
>> as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis.
> As a technical sidenote, it should be mentio
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 17:26, David Gerard wrote:
> It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that
> allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them
> as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis.
As a technical sidenote, it should be mentioned that recoding a lossy
format
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2009/6/8 Tim Starling :
> It's been discussed since OggHandler was invented in 2007, and I've
> always been in favour of it. But the code hasn't materialised, despite
> a Google Summer of Code project come and gone that was meant to
> implement a transcoding queue. The t
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that
> allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them
> as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis. It would greatly add to how much stuff we
> get, as it would save the user
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