Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The good news in this blogentry is that people outside of Google have access to it. When you read the text at readwriteweb, you will not see the word wiki once. You read the question what use the history tool will have ... exactly one of the things that would make a big difference for us. All

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Steven Walling
FYI everyone, I let Frederic at ReadWriteWeb know that there was some interest from Wikimedians about Wave integration, and he kindly linkedto a sample of the thread in his post about his impressions after a demo.

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are two things to consider; - when you develop using the Wave protocol the license covers your work - Wave is based on the Google Web Toolkit The Google Web Toolkit has a different license, it is licensed under the Apache license. So again I do not share your opinion that we can

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Tim Starling
Robert Rohde wrote: > Assuming Google is intending to be "not evil" about this, I would > guess the point of the intellectual property (e.g. patents and > trademarks) is to prevent people from creating things that are called > and/or identify themselves as Wave servers and yet don't conform to > th

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Robert Rohde
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >> Lars PLEASE read the license before you comment. > > Of course I have read the short license text at > http://www.waveprotocol.org/patent-license > > It says that as long as we follow Google's protocol standard, th

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > It says that as long as we follow Google's protocol standard, they > won't sue us for infringing on their patents ("patents necessarily > infringed by implementation of this specification").  Oh, how very > generous.  But what if we want to im

Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)

2009-06-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/2 George Herbert : > OLPC will last far longer out in the field than alternate platforms, > and uses less power. > Durability matters... This is true. Netbooks tend to the "cheap and cheerful" end of the spectrum, and I can hardly think of a popular model that's been out more than six mon

Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)

2009-06-02 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:59 PM, David Gerard wrote: > >> 2009/6/2 George Herbert : >> >> > OLPC is focused on kids.  That's important.  Perhaps a sister program >> > to provide one OLPC or like device per village, with a more adult >> > development

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Lars Aronsson
Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Lars PLEASE read the license before you comment. Of course I have read the short license text at http://www.waveprotocol.org/patent-license It says that as long as we follow Google's protocol standard, they won't sue us for infringing on their patents ("patents necessa

Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)

2009-06-02 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:59 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/6/2 George Herbert : > > > OLPC is focused on kids. That's important. Perhaps a sister program > > to provide one OLPC or like device per village, with a more adult > > development / educational / practical hands on skills data set load

Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)

2009-06-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/2 George Herbert : > OLPC is focused on kids.  That's important.  Perhaps a sister program > to provide one OLPC or like device per village, with a more adult > development / educational / practical hands on skills data set load > would be appropriate. http://www.pixelqi.com/ are displayi

Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)

2009-06-02 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Anthony wrote: > The educated people in rural areas generally get themselves out.  If someone > voluntarily chooses to live a subsistence lifestyle, there's no point in > providing them with a free copy of Wikipedia in the first place. Few people voluntarily chose

Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)

2009-06-02 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > While I can't imagine how I managed it now, I don't remember > struggling with browsing Wikipedia on a 56K modem. In fact, I think I > browsed it on a 36.6K modem... If it is what you are used to, it > really doesn't seem that bad. As long

Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)

2009-06-02 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > While I can't imagine how I managed it now, I don't remember > struggling with browsing Wikipedia on a 56K modem. In fact, I think I > browsed it on a 36.6K modem... If it is what you are used to, it > really doesn't seem that bad. As long

Re: [Foundation-l] Goodbye

2009-06-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Hi, On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:50, Michael Bimmler wrote: > I would like to use this opportunity to say "Goodbye" to all of you, > because my involvement with Wikimedia is now coming to an end. I could > make this a long email, taking about my time here and giving my > opinion and advice about th

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-06-02 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Judson Dunn wrote: > The revocation happens if you sue someone else for patent > infringement, it's really pretty positive, actually. "(including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit)"... Interesting... What if you have a patent under the same license? La