Jay Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Internet ... internet ... internet ... internet ... internet ... Internet ...
> Internet
"Internet" should be capitalized as a proper noun, but is also
commonly written lowercase (like "the sky"). Either way, the
capitalization should be consistent. I couldn'
Glad that's over with.
FMF
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Jay Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're quite pleased to share this information with you. This press
> release was distributed a few hours ago - we now have the news posted
> on the WMF wiki and we've updated the blog.
>
> Thanks
We're quite pleased to share this information with you. This press
release was distributed a few hours ago - we now have the news posted
on the WMF wiki and we've updated the blog.
Thanks are owed to many volunteers who spoke to the media and spread
the word about this situation, as well as
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
>> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
>> "paa
Ziko van Dijk wrote:
> About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
> is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
> help pages:
> * Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL
> * Expressions from the Open Source movement: fork, sta
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
> "paard" and you will not be served in the same way as with "horse" the
> search resul
I am enormously skeptical that there is any realistic possibility of getting
anyone let alone unpaid volunteers to forego the use of abbreviations or
useful jargon.
OTOH (LOL), I believe that there are MediaWiki software extensions (which I
enjoy using at Wiktionary) that allow a window to pop up
2008/12/9 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/12/9 Delirium <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>>> About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
>>> is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
>>> help pages:
>>> * Expres
2008/12/8 Andrew Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/12/8 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 2008/12/8 Rand Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> 1) A quick update of the community giving stats (gifts less than
>>> $10,000) for the first 35 days of the fundraiser:
>>
>>
>> How many donations in the na
There have been a number of discussion on the English Wikipedia lately
(sparked, of course, by the Virgin Killer image controversy) on the
propriety of various images and the need for retaining them on Wikipedia.
This is a problem that has a long history on Wikipedia, and a number of
controls are i
2008/12/9 Delirium <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>> About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
>> is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
>> help pages:
>> * Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL
>> * Expre
Ziko van Dijk wrote:
> About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
> is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
> help pages:
> * Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL
> * Expressions from the Open Source movement: fork, sta
2008/12/9 Ziko van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
> is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
> help pages:
> * Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL
> * Expressions from the Open So
2008/12/9 Ziko van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
> is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
> help pages:
> * Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL
> * Expressions from the Open So
Hoi,
If you want to hear that Commons is not completely useless because people
can use a dictionary, I grant you that. However Commons is still considered
to be useless by several Wikipedias who do not promote its use. I also
consider this argument lame.
When the categories of Commons are shown in
Please don't puts words (or notions) in my mouth.
At the moment, Commons works best for you when you can read/write English.
But if you don't, you can still do simple searches using a dictionary,
and find many useful images.
This fact contradicts your earlier statement that Commons is useless
to n
2008/12/9 Ziko van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
> is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
> help pages:
> * Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL
> * Expressions from the Open So
Many times it works well.
But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss.
I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct
license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot
come along and warn me. By pure coincidence i happened to come along at
commo
About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians
is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in
help pages:
* Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL
* Expressions from the Open Source movement: fork, stable version
* Expressions from
He may have meant "all posts from new members are moderated" which is the
way it works on WikiEN-L. Avoids the random spam, generally.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Michael Bimmler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/12/9 John Reaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I was thinking all posts were moderate
I'd love to know how many English native speakers know what is this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rami%C4%99_urabiaj%C4%85ce_kombajnu_chodnikowego.jpg
Uncategorized, used in an article on pl.wikipedia without interwikis, and
described only in Polish. I'm guessing some sort of drill, but
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Domas Mituzas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somehow following phrase caught my eye today,
>
> "Because myself and others have been frustrated by the lack of good
> stats
> on the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia, I have
> compiled
> some stats on the
> Are we working on the project because we're frustrated, or because we
> want to?
I think that might be a false dichotomy. We work on the projects
because we want to (we consider it a worthwhile cause), we work on
specific more tedious parts of the project out of frustration.
___
Hi,
I think there are people who work on the projects because the like it.
But i think there is also a group that is working because the are
fustrated.
Huib
--
Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but pictures
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SterkeBak
Somehow following phrase caught my eye today,
"Because myself and others have been frustrated by the lack of good
stats
on the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia, I have
compiled
some stats on the editing frequency on enwiki:"
Are we working on the project because we're frustra
Hoi,
An answer like that justifies and inforces the notion that Commons is only
for those that can read / write English. To me this is not acceptable
because it degrades Commons to less then what it should be, what it could
be.
Thanks,
GerardM
2008/12/9 Magnus Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> O
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Magnus Manske
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
>> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve th
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hoi,
> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
> "paard" and you will not be served in the same way as with "hor
Hoi,
Many organisations use MediaWiki, many organisations use all kinds of
extensions to make MediaWiki more usable. Extensions do not necessarily work
for stable releases. This is why extension testing is important for us all.
Extensions are used in many languages this is why internationalisation
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/12/7 Gerard Meijssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hoi,
>> When so many people are turned off by syntax of any kind, it makes sense to
>> prevent them to see such syntax. It should be there however for those who do
>> not co
2008/12/9 John Reaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I was thinking all posts were moderated.
Self-defeating argument: If all posts were moderated, your "Mod fail"
would have been rejected (or silently discarded, rather).
--
Michael Bimmler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_
I was thinking all posts were moderated. Mod win then.
2008/12/9 Michael Bimmler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Eh, why mod fail? He apparently subscribed to the list and posted
> afterwards, there is nothing we can do to prevent this or would you
> like us to check all new subscription requests (how?)
Eh, why mod fail? He apparently subscribed to the list and posted
afterwards, there is nothing we can do to prevent this or would you
like us to check all new subscription requests (how?) ?
For the record, all emails by non-members at the moment get
automatically rejected with an email saying th
Waerth wrote:
> The commons issue is not just a language issua. If it was it was
> solvable. It is a hositility issue. Where people who upload the second
> picture of the same object (like a TukTuk) get told it is not necassary
> because the project already has one picture of a TukTuk . The
The commons issue is not just a language issua. If it was it was
solvable. It is a hositility issue. Where people who upload the second
picture of the same object (like a TukTuk) get told it is not necassary
because the project already has one picture of a TukTuk . The
problem is that the c
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