Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Mark Williamson
...and of course everybody always forgets Malay and Indonesian. The people from these Wikipedias seem to have little desire to merge, but it is a fact of life that Indonesian is just a standardised Malay dialect, and that probably 95% of text copied from ms.wp to id.wp will be perfectly correct, wi

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Mark Williamson
Hi Gerard, Certainly there are dialectal differences between Moldova and Transnistria, but these are very minor and none of them are present in the written language, which is essentially based (with a handful of exceptions) on the speech of Wallachia in Romania rather than the speech of Chisinau o

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-14 Thread Nemo_bis
Teofilo, 14/11/2008 16:20: > The European Commission published in July a "Green Paper - Copyright > in the Knowledge Economy" (1) . http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Groep_Groenboek/en Nemo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsub

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-14 Thread geni
2008/11/14 teun spaans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Agree. > > And perhaps other organizations working with copy left licenses could be > informed? There is nothing in there of any real significance to free licenses. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list f

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-14 Thread geni
2008/11/14 Teofilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The European Commission published in July a "Green Paper - Copyright > in the Knowledge Economy" (1) . > > In §3.4. They talk about the possibility to adapt copyright law so > that user-created contents would become easier, Not really. They want to produce

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-14 Thread teun spaans
Agree. And perhaps other organizations working with copy left licenses could be informed? On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Teofilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The European Commission published in July a "Green Paper - Copyright > in the Knowledge Economy" (1) . > > In §3.4. They talk about th

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, One thing that all sides cannot agree on is that Romanian is also written in Cyrillic. Thanks, GerardM On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:12 PM, geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/14 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/11/14 geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> 2008/11/14 Michael Evers

[Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-14 Thread Teofilo
The European Commission published in July a "Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy" (1) . In §3.4. They talk about the possibility to adapt copyright law so that user-created contents would become easier, and they ask to send them feedback by 30 November 2008 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I t

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread geni
2008/11/14 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/11/14 geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 2008/11/14 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Why not just rename it ro-cyrl.wikipedia.org *right now* and be done >>> with it? >> >> Because the people who actually use it would not consider it Romanian.

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As it is, it will remain in this way unless the powers that be decide differently. When you read about the arguments why the Moldovan language was deprecated, the argument was very much based on what an official Moldovan organisation did. The people in Transnistria are effectively not part of

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This is not a valid argument.. By the way deprecated does not mean invalid. That IS a valid argument why it is not necessary to rename. Thanks, GerardM On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM, geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/14 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Why not just ren

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/11/14 geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/11/14 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Why not just rename it ro-cyrl.wikipedia.org *right now* and be done >> with it? > > Because the people who actually use it would not consider it Romanian. But the ISO standard that we use for these decisions

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread geni
2008/11/14 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Why not just rename it ro-cyrl.wikipedia.org *right now* and be done > with it? Because the people who actually use it would not consider it Romanian. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banner on the french wikipedia

2008-11-14 Thread Chad
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Andre Engels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's this defeatist attitude that has made being bold go out of style. > > Screw the bureaucracy, I say. Shred the rulebooks (or at least > > delete pra

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As it is it will remain in this way unless On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On 14 Nov 2008, at 11:30, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > Because this is one of the most heavily fought battles that did not > > result in a situation that is acceptable to

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Michael Everson
On 14 Nov 2008, at 11:30, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Because this is one of the most heavily fought battles that did not > result in a situation that is acceptable to all. Well, since "mo" is now deprecated, re-naming it "ro-Cyrl" can be done without really taking any decision. It's essentially

[Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-14 Thread Michael Everson
Why not just rename it ro-cyrl.wikipedia.org *right now* and be done with it? Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundatio

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, if it is a requirement that the mo.wikipedia is to be transliterated and intergrated in the ro.wikipedia, nobody is going to do it. People who read/write the latin script will be of the opinion that the quality is not good enough. The people who read/write cyrillic will gain nothing by doing t

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-14 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:42 PM, geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/13 Dan Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> How can people manage to be this grumpy about something this petty. >> Suggesting that a country is full of criminals simply because they use >> a different writing system is disgusting

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-14 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Platonides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is Moldovan Cyrillic transliterable to Latin? Then a transliteration > module could be used. A closed wiki readable on both scripts wouldn't be > too troublesome. > OTOH the work needed to make the transliteration module i

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banner on the french wikipedia

2008-11-14 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's this defeatist attitude that has made being bold go out of style. > Screw the bureaucracy, I say. Shred the rulebooks (or at least > delete practically everything from the project namespace) and > do what is right rather than