Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Mark Williamson
There is no study of how many people cannot read Latin-alphabet Romanian. However, I suspect that if there are such people, most of them (except maybe elderly?) are fluent in Russian. However, I don't think that's the appropriate way to look at the issue. There is an assumption that Moldavians in

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Marcus Buck
Perhaps it helps the Latin fraction to try to view it the other way round: Providing Cyrillic does not mean recognition of the Russification policy of the Russian majority in Transnistria, but it is a measure of brotherlyness with the brothers in Transnistria who suffer from a system that does

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Marcus Buck
Marcus Buck hett schreven: > Mark Williamson hett schreven: > >> It would be quite simple. Theoretically, it could be a tab at >> ro.wiki.. but politically that seems unlikely to garner >> approval from ro.wikipedians. >> >> Mark >> >> > How many percent of the Moldovan or Transn

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Marcus Buck
Mark Williamson hett schreven: > It would be quite simple. Theoretically, it could be a tab at > ro.wiki.. but politically that seems unlikely to garner > approval from ro.wikipedians. > > Mark > How many percent of the Moldovan or Transnistrian population or how many people in absolute

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Mark Williamson
It would be quite simple. Theoretically, it could be a tab at ro.wiki.. but politically that seems unlikely to garner approval from ro.wikipedians. Mark 2008/11/13 Platonides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dan Collins wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Cetateanu Moldovanu >> <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Platonides
Dan Collins wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Cetateanu Moldovanu > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> By leaving mo. domain like this you continue to support and agree to "soviet >> union" politics they did to us(russification, cultural changes, >> discrimination).. >> Really very painful to se

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread geni
2008/11/13 Dan Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Really? By hosting a wiki in moldovan that uses the same language, but > a different writing style than you happen to prefer, we're supporting > russia? What evil communists we are! We should be drawn and quartered. > Why are we allowed to live? Quick,

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Erm, it's not in another language. Nikola wrote an english phrase, using the cyrillic alphabet. "I object to your calling cyrillic "garbage" and I would like an apology". Ај обџект то јур колинг сирилик "гарбиџ", анд ај вуд лајк ан аполоџи. -Dan On Nov 13, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Thomas Dalton w

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
It's the same as having american language in cyrillic and somebody saying that's nothing. American language is the same thing as english. Exactly the same thing is Moldovan language, it is the same as Romanian and mo. should not exist. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/13 Cetateanu Moldovanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>Ај обџект то јур колинг сирилик "гарбиџ", анд ај вуд лајк ан аполоџи. > I'm sorry If I offended you, I just have some strong feelings about > russification politics soviet union done to our people, and we feel a great > deal of pain each time w

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Collins
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Cetateanu Moldovanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By leaving mo. domain like this you continue to support and agree to "soviet > union" politics they did to us(russification, cultural changes, > discrimination).. > Really very painful to see this still going until th

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
I want to inform you that Transitria is ruled by russian army( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria#Russian_military_presence_in_Transnistria) and it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria#Moldovan_schools "insist that public education for ethnic Moldovans in their mother tongue is done usi

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/11/13 Nikola Smolenski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 13 November 2008 20:06:06 Cetateanu Moldovanu wrote: >> All I want is to NOT name the CYRILLIC garbage with OUR NAME ! > > Ај обџект то јур колинг сирилик "гарбиџ", анд ај вуд лајк ан аполоџи. While this is an international mailing lis

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On Thursday 13 November 2008 20:06:06 Cetateanu Moldovanu wrote: > All I want is to NOT name the CYRILLIC garbage with OUR NAME ! Ај обџект то јур колинг сирилик "гарбиџ", анд ај вуд лајк ан аполоџи. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread geni
2008/11/13 Dan Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How can people manage to be this grumpy about something this petty. > Suggesting that a country is full of criminals simply because they use > a different writing system is disgusting trolling, and has no place on > this mailing list. > > -- > DCollins/

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Collins
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Cetateanu Moldovanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The argument for this project is that in Transnistria >> there are people who still use Cyrillic to write their language. > > Then please rename mo. to another thing, MO means MOLDOVAN, and in MOLDOVA > we write OUR

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

2008-11-13 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
> The argument for this project is that in Transnistria > there are people who still use Cyrillic to write their language. Then please rename mo. to another thing, MO means MOLDOVAN, and in MOLDOVA we write OUR language with LATIN letters. I don't really care what the transnistrian(russian) separ

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banner on the french wikipedia

2008-11-13 Thread Marcus Buck
geni schrieb: > 2008/11/13 Marcus Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Rules limit your freedom, but it's the rules that create and ensure your >> freedom in the first place. >> > > > They also provide a useful test of how original you are being. If > existing rules cover what you are doing you a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banner on the french wikipedia

2008-11-13 Thread geni
2008/11/13 Marcus Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rules limit your freedom, but it's the rules that create and ensure your > freedom in the first place. They also provide a useful test of how original you are being. If existing rules cover what you are doing you are probably not being that original.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banner on the french wikipedia

2008-11-13 Thread Marcus Buck
Chad hett schreven: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Waerth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Welcome to the wikibureaucracy Anthere. It gets worse and worse. Also on >> the projects the bureaucracy tends to want to stick to procedures and >> rules they created :( The times of be bold and do s

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banner on the french wikipedia

2008-11-13 Thread Chad
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Waerth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome to the wikibureaucracy Anthere. It gets worse and worse. Also on > the projects the bureaucracy tends to want to stick to procedures and > rules they created :( The times of be bold and do something is long > over. It is

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banner on the french wikipedia

2008-11-13 Thread Waerth
>>> >>> What about setting up a mailing list for the duration of the fundraiser, >>> where all contact people and WMF could communicate on the issue of the >>> fundraiser ? How do you feel about that ? >>> >>> >> As far as I know, Erik has been handling the chapters aspect of the >> Fundrai