Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-14 Thread Bernhard Reutner-Fischer via Fortran
On 14 June 2023 11:40:06 CEST, Mikael Morin wrote: >> What do you prefer? "not affiliated" or >> "private", ...? >> >Yes, that's fine. Nothing. Whatever. IMHO that usually would be not applicable / n/a

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-14 Thread Mikael Morin
Le 14/06/2023 à 10:28, Andre Vehreschild a écrit : Hi Mikael, please find my answers inline. I understand. I would have been happy in the past when a client had as much knowledge and structure than we already have. Under "Project goal" we now have about 300 words. So we could add more. Well,

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-14 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Mikael, please find my answers inline. > > I understand. I would have been happy in the past when a client had as much > > knowledge and structure than we already have. Under "Project goal" we now > > have about 300 words. So we could add more. > Well, It wouldn't be really part of the goal, m

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-14 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Benson, thanks for the input. I will incorporate it. Regards, Andre On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 08:34:54 +0300 Benson Muite wrote: > On 6/5/23 13:07, Andre Vehreschild wrote: > > Hi Benson, > > > > thank you for your input. Comments are inline: > > > >> Maybe add Quantum Espresso: > >> https

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-08 Thread Mikael Morin
Hello, Le 06/06/2023 à 15:06, Andre Vehreschild a écrit : Hi Mikael, ... Yes, I don't like it but I understand the need for estimating. I have looked at the evaluation criteria at [1]. There is among other things: Furthermore, we look at how well the planning for the project is laid out. Are

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-07 Thread Benson Muite via Fortran
On 6/5/23 13:07, Andre Vehreschild wrote: > Hi Benson, > > thank you for your input. Comments are inline: > >> Maybe add Quantum Espresso: >> https://www.quantum-espresso.org/ > Another code: https://github.com/openmopac/mopac currently being supported by https://molssi.org/ > done > >> R and

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-06 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Mikael, ... > Yes, I don't like it but I understand the need for estimating. > I have looked at the evaluation criteria at [1]. There is among other > things: > > Furthermore, we look at how well the planning for the project is laid out. > > Are the activities well-structured, appropriate and

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-05 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
I have referenced LAPACK now. I hope this is ok? - Andre On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 14:16:43 +0200 Thomas Koenig wrote: > On 05.06.23 12:07, Andre Vehreschild wrote: > >> R and Octave may also be good examples of use cases. > > Mhhh, both are not written in Fortran, right? > > They are not, but at leas

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-05 Thread Thomas Koenig via Fortran
On 05.06.23 12:07, Andre Vehreschild wrote: R and Octave may also be good examples of use cases. Mhhh, both are not written in Fortran, right? They are not, but at least R uses Lapack, which is written in Fortran. And Lapack is about as central to scientific computing as you can be. Best rega

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-05 Thread Mikael Morin
Le 05/06/2023 à 10:08, Andre Vehreschild a écrit : Regarding the time estimates, it's a bit difficult as we can't foresee at this stage the amount of regressions that will need to be fixed, and how difficult they will be. I'm not even sure that the process of picking one regression and fixing it

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-05 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Thomas, thanks for the idea. My doctor father will like it, because he is one of the authors. - Andre On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 09:49:51 +0200 Thomas Koenig wrote: > On 01.06.23 13:12, Benson Muite via Fortran wrote: > > > R and Octave may also be good examples of use cases. > > More generally, La

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-05 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Jerry, thanks. I switched from FAST to OpenFAST in the list of references. Strangely my google search never pointed me to OpenFAST. Regards, Andre On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 17:53:21 -0700 Jerry D wrote: > On 6/1/23 2:18 AM, Andre Vehreschild wrote: > > Hi Damian, all, > > > > thank you for

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-05 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Benson, thank you for your input. Comments are inline: > Maybe add Quantum Espresso: > https://www.quantum-espresso.org/ done > R and Octave may also be good examples of use cases. Mhhh, both are not written in Fortran, right? I don't feel tempted to include other programming languages into

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-05 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Mikael, thanks for your valuable input. I have commented inline: > The latter paragraph seems more an answer to the question "why is it > critical for gfortran to get funding" than "why is it critical for a > funding body to choose gfortran"? > > One idea about the latter question: > so tha

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-04 Thread Thomas Koenig via Fortran
On 01.06.23 12:59, Mikael Morin wrote: The latter paragraph seems more an answer to the question "why is it critical for gfortran to get funding" than "why is it critical for a funding body to choose gfortran"? Good point :-) One idea about the latter question: so that there is always a fr

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-04 Thread Thomas Koenig via Fortran
On 01.06.23 13:12, Benson Muite via Fortran wrote: R and Octave may also be good examples of use cases. More generally, Lapack is written in Fortran, and R uses Lapack (as we found out the hard way with PR 90329). And Lapack is really a foundation of linear algebra, which is at the heart of a

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-01 Thread Jerry D via Fortran
On 6/1/23 2:18 AM, Andre Vehreschild wrote: Hi Damian, all, thank you for your input. I have incorporated most of it. Due to Germany stepping out of nuclear use, I have reduced the cites on these to a minimum. I don't know anything about the people evaluating the proposal and don't want to be re

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-01 Thread Benson Muite via Fortran
On 6/1/23 12:18, Andre Vehreschild wrote: > Hi Damian, all, > > thank you for your input. I have incorporated most of it. Due to Germany > stepping out of nuclear use, I have reduced the cites on these to a minimum. I > don't know anything about the people evaluating the proposal and don't want to

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-01 Thread Mikael Morin
Hello, some more comments below: Le 01/06/2023 à 11:18, Andre Vehreschild a écrit : Hi Damian, all, thank you for your input. I have incorporated most of it. Due to Germany stepping out of nuclear use, I have reduced the cites on these to a minimum. I don't know anything about the people evalu

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-01 Thread Bernhard Reutner-Fischer via Fortran
On 1 June 2023 11:18:08 CEST, Andre Vehreschild via Fortran wrote: >Hi Damian, all, > >thank you for your input. I have incorporated most of it. Due to Germany >stepping out of nuclear use, I have reduced the cites on these to a minimum. I >don't know anything about the people evaluating the prop

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-06-01 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Damian, all, thank you for your input. I have incorporated most of it. Due to Germany stepping out of nuclear use, I have reduced the cites on these to a minimum. I don't know anything about the people evaluating the proposal and don't want to be rejected just because of ideological reasons. He

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-31 Thread Damian Rouson
Thanks for working on this, guys. I made a few suggestions below. Damian On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 5:25 AM Andre Vehreschild via Fortran < fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote: > > - Dependencies (on the project as well as projects that depend on the > technology; max 300 words) > > CP2K https://www.cp2k

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-31 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Thomas, I have revamp the proposal a bit more. Thank you for your input. I took some of it "as is", but I also rephrased some of it. I hope you are ok with that. Here is what I have so far: --- - Title: GFortran-Improvement - Abstract: Enable the free gfortran compiler to support contempora

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-31 Thread Benson Muite via Fortran
On 5/31/23 09:08, Thomas Koenig wrote: > On 31.05.23 05:46, Benson Muite wrote: >> On 5/30/23 23:08, Thomas Koenig via Fortran wrote: > > * Complete language intrinsic parallel programming paradigm coarrays. This includes completing native coarray support (thread based). As > w

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-30 Thread Thomas Koenig via Fortran
On 31.05.23 05:46, Benson Muite wrote: > On 5/30/23 23:08, Thomas Koenig via Fortran wrote: >>> * Complete language intrinsic parallel programming paradigm coarrays. >>> This >>> includes completing native coarray support (thread based). As well as >>> refactoring of the library based

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-30 Thread Benson Muite via Fortran
On 5/30/23 23:08, Thomas Koenig via Fortran wrote: > On 30.05.23 15:32, Andre Vehreschild wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> thank you for all your input. I have read the funding requirements and >> checked >> out the application form. We have to agree on a project goal and >> describe why >> it is critical t

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-30 Thread Thomas Koenig via Fortran
On 30.05.23 15:32, Andre Vehreschild wrote: Hi all, thank you for all your input. I have read the funding requirements and checked out the application form. We have to agree on a project goal and describe why it is critical to fund this project. Let me try a first shot on this: - Title: GFort

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-30 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi all, thank you for all your input. I have read the funding requirements and checked out the application form. We have to agree on a project goal and describe why it is critical to fund this project. Let me try a first shot on this: - Title: GFortran-Improvement - Abstract: Enable the free

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-28 Thread Jerry D via Fortran
On 5/28/23 12:25 PM, Mikael Morin wrote: Hello, I would like to apply for 60% of my work time if there is funding for it. These are the projects that I would like to push (in no particular order):  - Simplify scalarizer API and usage,  - Create internal APIs (basically split gfortran.h and/or

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-28 Thread Mikael Morin
Hello, I would like to apply for 60% of my work time if there is funding for it. These are the projects that I would like to push (in no particular order): - Simplify scalarizer API and usage, - Create internal APIs (basically split gfortran.h and/or trans.h to different pieces) and add unit

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-28 Thread Thomas Koenig via Fortran
Hi everybody, there is also another aspect. Could this Sovereign Tech Fund also include travel allowances to go to a GNU Cauldron or a WG5 meeting? This could be quite interesting, I think. What is the largest number of gfortran contributers who ever met in one place? Manchester, a few years a

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-28 Thread Nicolas König
Hi everyone, I think I can offer to pick up the work again. There were some strange details about pointers and coarrays which had me thinking that the approach taken for the native coarrays was doomed to failure (which is why I didn't continue the work), but I now think that the Fortran standard

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-27 Thread Paul Richard Thomas via Fortran
Hi Andre, It's good to hear from you. I would suggest the following: (i) Complete F2003 compliance - Now that finalization is within a whisker of compliance, this mostly leaves putting PDTs right. The framework is all there, it just needs revamping. I can provide guidance or a statement of work h

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-27 Thread Andre Vehreschild via Fortran
Hi Thomas, working full-time on a gfortran engagement would be possible for me. Given that my company is Germany based and we have some capacity, that would be feasible for us. We also have some knowledge about how to invoice authorities, which can be a bit difficult sometimes. So I regard coarr

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-27 Thread Thomas Koenig via Fortran
On 26.05.23 23:22, Jerry D via Fortran wrote: Sorry about my messages getting chopped. On 5/25/23 9:34 PM, Jerry DeLisle via Fortran wrote: Hi all, I found this message in my spam folder tonight. Please look.  I also sent a note to Damian on this. Maybe we can get someone to push forward on

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-26 Thread Jerry D via Fortran
Sorry about my messages getting chopped. On 5/25/23 9:34 PM, Jerry DeLisle via Fortran wrote: Hi all, I found this message in my spam folder tonight. Please look. I also sent a note to Damian on this. Maybe we can get someone to push forward on te native coarrays work? Other thoughts? Jerr

Re: Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-26 Thread Bernhard Reutner-Fischer via Fortran
On 26 May 2023 06:34:52 CEST, Jerry DeLisle via Fortran wrote: >Maybe we can get someone to push forward on te native coarrays work? It would be nice if someone could streamline the locking therein, as said.

Possible funding of gfortran work

2023-05-25 Thread Jerry DeLisle via Fortran
Hi all, I found this message in my spam folder tonight. Please look. I also sent a note to Damian on this. Maybe we can get someone to push forward on te native coarrays work? Other thoughts? Jerry