moving on...
On Saturday, January 28, 2012, Joan Llenas Masó
wrote:
> sorry jude.. My answer wasn't appropriate.
> The post subject is literally the webminar title. The proberv intent was
to
> enfatize that knowing the competence and knowing yourself increases the
> chances of doing things right.
sorry jude.. My answer wasn't appropriate.
The post subject is literally the webminar title. The proberv intent was to
enfatize that knowing the competence and knowing yourself increases the
chances of doing things right.
I hope it clarifies my intentions.
As I said, the only reason I started this
yes, that's exactly what you wanted to read. (sarcasm)
On Jan 28, 2012 1:23 AM, "jude" wrote:
> Are you serious? You posted a thread titled, "Moving from Adobe Flex to
> HTML5 and Sencha" on the Apache Flex incubator list? Who said Sencha is our
> enemy?
>
> Judah Frangipane
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2
Are you serious? You posted a thread titled, "Moving from Adobe Flex to
HTML5 and Sencha" on the Apache Flex incubator list? Who said Sencha is our
enemy?
Judah Frangipane
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Joan Llenas Masó <
joan.llenas.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sencha has done a great job making
Hi Ted, thanks for the clarification.
You know that the Flex community has suffered a lot in the last months and
the ones who make a living of it are very sensitive to unsubstantiated
argumentation.
Looking forward to attend to this webminar and see how the transition is
approached.
Thanks
--
J
Hi Ted,
> My only ask is... Please stay laser focused on making Apache Flex kick
ass.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted Patrick
> Developer Relations
> Sencha
Thank you for the message. It's important that the world starts to focus on
each technology's strong points instead of competitors weak points. Yo
On Jan 26, 2012 9:39 PM, "Ted Patrick" wrote:
>
> Hello Apache Flex. My name is Ted Patrick, I run developer relations
> at Sencha and formerly worked at Adobe on Flex as an evangelist and
> have used Flash since it was FutureSplash and Flex since 1.5.
>
> I thought I might clarify some things...
Hello Apache Flex. My name is Ted Patrick, I run developer relations
at Sencha and formerly worked at Adobe on Flex as an evangelist and
have used Flash since it was FutureSplash and Flex since 1.5.
I thought I might clarify some things...
We launched a marketing campaign to talk to Flex develope
Don't discount HTML/JS frameworks without investigating them, or you'll
find yourselves contributing to a waning project while the competitors
are
recruiting all your developers.
Also, one or more of these frameworks might become our best friend
if we end up mapping MXML to their UI Widgets so
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> Also, one or more of these frameworks might become our best friend if we end
> up mapping MXML to their UI Widgets someday.
+1 Good point!
Hi Joan,
I've read the proverb at the end of your message. I totally agree with it.
Regards,
Bogdan
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Joan Llenas Masó <
joan.llenas.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sencha has done a great job making ExtJS a successful product and I'm sure
> they'll give some interesting
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug McCune [mailto:d...@dougmccune.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:24 AM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha
>
>
> Don't discount HTML/JS frameworks w
>
> I understand the frustration but can we move on and concentrate on Flex?
I think an understanding of the others options out there is really good. I
saw the title of this thread and before clicking it was hoping it didn't
turn into one giant flamewar, which of course, it did. I think it is wor
I understand the frustration but can we move on and concentrate on Flex?
G.
Ext-JS-Flex-Comp.pdf.pdf
> saved from your google docs link
>
> -Original Message- From: Joan Llenas Masó
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:12 PM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha
>
> I made it publ
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1375050/Sencha-Ext-JS-Flex-Comp.pdf.pdf
saved from your google docs link
-Original Message-
From: Joan Llenas Masó
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:12 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha
I made
I made it public to the whole web, it has to be accessible now...
if not I'll send it by email.
Anyway, I'll delete it as soon as the new one is made public. Rectification
is smart.
--
Joan Llenas Masó
http://joan.garnet.io
@joangarnet (es)
@joanllenas (en)
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 17:01, Davi
Well, the fact that this document was ever created and made public makes me
think that Sencha was planning to play dirty. They were caught though.
Was Ted the one who wrote (or allowed to make public) the document?
I'd like to think that answer is no.
--
Joan Llenas Masó
http://joan.garnet.io
@jo
Still inaccessible.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Joan Llenas Masó
wrote:
> David, check again please.
>
> --
> Joan Llenas Masó
> http://joan.garnet.io
> @joangarnet (es)
> @joanllenas (en)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 16:56, David Francis Buhler
> wrote:
>
>> Joan,
>>
>> I cannot access
David, check again please.
--
Joan Llenas Masó
http://joan.garnet.io
@joangarnet (es)
@joanllenas (en)
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 16:56, David Francis Buhler
wrote:
> Joan,
>
> I cannot access your link to the Google Doc. Perhaps the document
> isn't 'public'?
>
> -BUHLER
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012
Joan,
I cannot access your link to the Google Doc. Perhaps the document
isn't 'public'?
-BUHLER
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Joan Llenas Masó
wrote:
> wow, "some inaccuracies" was actually a sarcasm...
> Well then, my document checker popped up a notification saying "no criteria
> was foun
From: "Doug Arthur"
I think someone here should create an identical PDF, but about Flex -
with the facts, and post it here! I would totally do it if I had time,
but it would take me a week or more with my schedule.
- Doug
Before the guns starts blazing, it should be mentionned that Ted Patrick
Its showing up fine for me.
-Original Message-
From: Marcus Fritze [mailto:marcus.fri...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:22 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha
404...
Am 26.01.2012 um 16:05 schrieb
I get a "404 not found" for that link... Could someone please forward me a
copy of the PDF if they have it?
Thanks,
Andrew Trice
Technical Evangelist, Adobe
On 1/26/12 10:40 AM, "Doug Arthur" wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Arnoud Bos
>wrote:
>> no prop here. i can download the
wow, "some inaccuracies" was actually a sarcasm...
Well then, my document checker popped up a notification saying "no criteria
was found in this document".
Anyway, this doesn't change the fact that ExtJS is an excellent product.
I'm attending to the webminar just to see how they are going to appro
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Arnoud Bos wrote:
> no prop here. i can download the pdf (which is indeed very inaccurate)
> leaving out air is crazy. They say for example you cannot deploy flex on iOS.
>
> pff so many things wrong i don't know where to start
>
> another example: They only me
no prop here. i can download the pdf (which is indeed very inaccurate)
leaving out air is crazy. They say for example you cannot deploy flex on iOS.
pff so many things wrong i don't know where to start
another example: They only mention flash builder (premium edition) a $699 when
talking abo
404...
Am 26.01.2012 um 16:05 schrieb David Francis Buhler:
> http://pages.sencha.com/rs/sencha/images/Sencha-Ext-JS-Flex-Comp.pdf
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Ivan Ilijašić wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Jeffry Houser >> wrote:
>>
>>> They had another PDF up there which
http://pages.sencha.com/rs/sencha/images/Sencha-Ext-JS-Flex-Comp.pdf
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Ivan Ilijašić wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Jeffry Houser >wrote:
>
> > They had another PDF up there which compared Sencha to Flex. It was
> > removed after I complained on twitte
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote:
> They had another PDF up there which compared Sencha to Flex. It was
> removed after I complained on twitter about inaccuracies.
>
That's why I can't find it :)
They tried to compare Sencha and mobile Flex based on Flash Player, not on
AIR.
On 1/26/2012 6:38 AM, Joan Llenas Masó wrote:
Once you register to the webminar they offer the "The Development Manager’s
Quick Guide to HTML5" for download:
http://pages.sencha.com/rs/sencha/images/Sencha-WP-Dev-Mgrs-Guide-to-HTML5.pdf
Which seems to be a good overview of what they are going to
Sorry, I didn't mean to be funny.
Sencha is one of the most stablished HTML RIA frameworks in the enterprise
market.
To give you an example, Adobe Day ECM is using it internally and is what
you use to extend Day's built in widgets.
They know what they do and I'm sure we can use their reasoning "aga
Great contribution LOLL
you are a funny guy :D
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Joan Llenas Masó <
joan.llenas.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sencha has done a great job making ExtJS a successful product and I'm sure
> they'll give some interesting implicit inputs about where Flex can improve
> from
Sencha has done a great job making ExtJS a successful product and I'm sure
they'll give some interesting implicit inputs about where Flex can improve
from their perspective.
I see this as a great opportunity to understand how they justify the
transition to potential enterprise customers.
They have
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