RE: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Gordon Smith
hursday, February 16, 2012 11:39 AM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers In this example I'd have to agree. It's more on a case by case basis for this then. Does the comment add any value to the end user (developer) or is it j

RE: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Neil Madsen
ly not an easy nut to crack with so many classes and thousands of lines of code to go through. Neil -Original Message- From: Carol Frampton [mailto:cfram...@adobe.com] Sent: February-16-12 12:17 PM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK ver

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Carol Frampton
Some of this code has existed a long time. We no longer use @private except if you want to keep a public var or method hidden from asdocs. Most people do not doc obvious private variables or they may just use a one line // comment. /** * Sets the title. * */ public function set title(value:Strin

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 2/16/2012 1:40 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: I don't think anyone is arguing about the usefulness of code comments. However there are a lot, and I mean a lot, of comments that are simply noise. Fair enough; if the comment communicates no value; I have no issues deleting it. All this kind of cr

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Neil Madsen wrote: > 100% agreement here. > Having had to just port an incredibly complex military application I wrote > years ago I can tell you I was so happy that I took the time back then > to write as many comments as I did in the code. I even found mysel

RE: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Neil Madsen
supposed to do. If it ain't broke. Just my 2 cents. Neil -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jef...@dot-com-it.com] Sent: February-16-12 8:13 AM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Omar Gonzalez Subject: Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version number

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 2/16/2012 4:01 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM, David Arno wrote: On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 18:05 +1100, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, Was looking though some of the framework code and noticed that a lot of method are marked up with comments that are imported into docume

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
It is actually detailed, just look at the source code of UIComponent as an exmaple, the class documentation alone is 134 lines long!! When I read the source code I generally only look at the first lines of the documentation to have general idea. If I need more details I read the generated HTML doc

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread almansour belleh blanco
Well, it is not really detailed documentation. It's a documentation generated automatically and for that you have just to follow a common procedure for writing the comments. It is useful so that when your code is read by other developers, it can be better understood. 2012/2/16 Haykel BEN JEMIA :

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
Personally I never write detailed documentation while developing. I generally write a short description and the detailed documentation is either written by someone else or in another documentation pass, which can be done in other files. I have suggested stub classes in an earlier e-mail because I

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Martin Heidegger
This is true the same time as its problematic. If we keep the documentation in english up-to-date as we code and the other languages get outdated then its a essential quality issue. Also having a completely different workflow for english than the other languages pushes a little to ignoring the o

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Carol Frampton
I am totally against stripping out the asdoc. Who do you think writes the asdoc? We do. It is just as important as the code. If you strip it out it won't be kept current. It should be part of any code review. Carol On 2/16/12 4 :15AM, "Omar Gonzalez" wrote: >> >> Perhaps a script to strip

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 16/02/2012 18:40, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, The xml looks like a distinct possibility even if it is harder to maintain. I's also assume that the XML skeleton was generated via some tool/script. It may break tool tip help in Flash Builder if we went down this path. Justin "Big-swcs" have t

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, The xml looks like a distinct possibility even if it is harder to maintain. I's also assume that the XML skeleton was generated via some tool/script. It may break tool tip help in Flash Builder if we went down this path. Justin

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I'm not quire sure what you mean. The ideal solution would be to figure out > a way to keep comments in such a way that the during development they're > not in our files but at release or at patch submission the proper > documentation is there. Yep exactly what I was suggesting. Use a script

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Martin Heidegger wrote: > On 16/02/2012 18:21, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > >> >> how do they link the appropriate XML documents to the correct class and >> methods? >> >> -omar >> > I can see that they use the signature of the methods to map the > translation to the con

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 16/02/2012 18:21, Omar Gonzalez wrote: how do they link the appropriate XML documents to the correct class and methods? -omar I can see that they use the signature of the methods to map the translation to the content [1]. yours Martin. [1]https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/w

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Martin Heidegger wrote: > The documentation for languages except english are generated using xml > files. > I never tried it but I guess you can use similar files for english as well > and remove all > the english documentation out of the sources. > > yours > Marti

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Martin Heidegger
The documentation for languages except english are generated using xml files. I never tried it but I guess you can use similar files for english as well and remove all the english documentation out of the sources. yours Martin. On 16/02/2012 18:01, Omar Gonzalez wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Omar Gonzalez
> > Perhaps a script to strip out all comments and a way to create patches > ignoring missing comments would be useful? > > Thanks, > Justin I'm not quire sure what you mean. The ideal solution would be to figure out a way to keep comments in such a way that the during development they're not in

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Tink
This stuff is important for the docs. I'm presuming people view the docs more than the code. That said are Adobe committing the doc templates and task that use these? I personally wouldn't like to see it removed unless there is a totally different URL for the docs to go with each release (which

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I'd really like it if we could figure out a way of getting rid of all > that crap out of the framework as it makes reading the code far more > difficult. I do find it slightly annoying but I do like that it tells you what version of the SDK etc the method requires. That's useful. It's also

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
What about creating stub classes for the documentation? I think this how it is done for PHP. This could make maintenance of documentation harder though. Haykel On 16 February 2012 10:01, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM, David Arno wrote: > > > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 1

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM, David Arno wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 18:05 +1100, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Was looking though some of the framework code and noticed that a lot of > method are marked up with comments that are imported into documents re > player version and the l

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-16 Thread David Arno
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 18:05 +1100, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Was looking though some of the framework code and noticed that a lot of > method are marked up with comments that are imported into documents re player > version and the like. > > Here's a typical section. > * @langversion

Re: asdoc comments for flash player and SDK version numbers

2012-02-15 Thread Omar Gonzalez
> > > > Or do we don't bother adding this information at all and revisit at a > later date? Anyone have a strong view on this? > > Thanks, > Justin > > I do think we should figure out what the proper values are to reduce the amount of work we have to do when its time to package a release by not hav