Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Ok thanks ALex. So its not as simple as it seemed at first place about proprietary code. It make sens now. I agree that starting from scratch is the way to go further then. Le 05/10/2012 18:24, Alex Harui a écrit : On 10/5/12 6:47 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote: Is it definitive that Adobe

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

On 10/5/12 6:47 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote: > Is it definitive that Adobe will not donate the DV code to Apache? Never say Never. But at this point, trying to change minds at Adobe is not a priority for me, because I think the code isn't the right design. I would rather start over. > I t

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Is it definitive that Adobe will not donate the DV code to Apache? I thought there were no legal issues to do it, as it was a full air app? (not like Catalyst) Maybe we could start to try to obtain it before starting something else from scratch. At least it worse to get a deep look at how it was

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

I've embedded a swf file in an Eclipse plugin and enabled back and forth communication using just 'fscommand'. It was a while ago and was quite easy to do this - using Flash MX 2004. I have no doubts about being able to do this using today's Flash Player runtime. ExternalInterface should work f

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

In closing, if I knew ActionScript had a future and I was rich and had a bunch of geek friends that I played music with, I would start an opensource IDE using the Eclipse platform and the new Falcon compiler and start all over taking a minimalistic approach. No kitchen sink, just absolutely

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

This is like playing with a video game, it looks fun but really has no bearing on the discussion other than having a realization that we could use a socket for communication. > > And for that matter, the client code (Eclipse Java) is buried in FDT, I > don't even think they give access to that, ju

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Quoting Roland Zwaga : - Eclipse Parses AS plugin source code - FlashPlayer loads parsed XML AST Tree - FlashPlayer interprets the AST using a DOM - FlashPlayer then inspects the DOM for mapped implementations of the Eclipse Plugin API - FlashPlayer then sends commands back to Eclipse's Java AP

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

> > - Eclipse Parses AS plugin source code > - FlashPlayer loads parsed XML AST Tree > - FlashPlayer interprets the AST using a DOM > - FlashPlayer then inspects the DOM for mapped implementations of the > Eclipse Plugin API > - FlashPlayer then sends commands back to Eclipse's Java API > - Eclipse

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Quoting Roland Zwaga : Well Roland, I looked at the code again. I need to take it down a notch, there are about 3 different things I am looking at. 1. Direct communication from an IDE to Browser over a socket. 2. How we could use existing code, IE SWFBridge. 3. If writing a plugin using thi

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

> > >> Well Roland, I looked at the code again. I need to take it down a notch, > there are about 3 different things I am looking at. > > 1. Direct communication from an IDE to Browser over a socket. > 2. How we could use existing code, IE SWFBridge. > 3. If writing a plugin using this framework is

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Quoting Roland Zwaga : Ok, I looked at this code, it looks like they use a socket bridge from Eclipse to the browser to send actions/commands/messages. The developer has created an AST API in ActionScript that looks like it decorates metadata XML. I'm not sure if it's metadata or actually AST

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Hey guys, > >> are you aware of the SWFBridge in the FDT IDE? >> >> http://fdt.powerflasher.com/**swf-bridge/ >> >> They basically allow you to write plugins for FDT in Actionscript, maybe >> we >> can get >> some inspiration from these guys ;) >> >> cheers

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Quoting Roland Zwaga : > I would put time investigating this if I knew where to start looking. > Or if Adobe could give some pointers, what ever they figured it out so > we should be able to as well. > I didn't think it was AIR in FB DV. There is a special "authoring" player that Flash Pro uses

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

>> The current design view in Flash Builder is implemented as an AIR app. > >> Look inside: \Adobe\Adobe Flash Builder > >> 4.6\eclipse\plugins\com.adobe.flexbuilder.designview_4.6.0.328916 > >> > >> I have no idea how it is integrated into Eclipse as a view though. My > best > >> bet is that the

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

On 10/2/12 2:51 PM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: >> The current design view in Flash Builder is implemented as an AIR app. >> Look inside: \Adobe\Adobe Flash Builder >> 4.6\eclipse\plugins\com.adobe.flexbuilder.designview_4.6.0.328916 >> >> I have no idea how it is integrated into Eclipse as a

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Quoting sumit arora : Hi, I have worked on designing tools using flex and have fairly good understanding of architecture reqd. Please tell me if can help. Regards, Sumit Arora What type of tools are you talking about? Integration into IDEs? Or Flex Applications? Mike -- Michael Schmall

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Hi, I have worked on designing tools using flex and have fairly good understanding of architecture reqd. Please tell me if can help. Regards, Sumit Arora On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Om wrote: > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk > design/architecture

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Quoting Om : 2. Design area: This would be a container where we will draw the objects I actually wrote a RuledCanvas component 3 years ago that exactly mimicked fireworks interface with the sliding rulers, drag and drop components onto the "floating canvas". I spent about 2 years on it.

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Quoting Om : > > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk >> design/architecture now. >> >> Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the >> user >> interactively drag and drop com

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

On 10/2/12 1:59 PM, "Om" wrote: >>> 3. Interactive layer: Any object or group of objects in the design area >>> can be selected, resized, rotated, constrained. >> Some alternatives are that each component provides its own interaction and >> tries to utilize a library of interaction widgets

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 10/2/12 12:56 PM, "Om" wrote: > > > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets > talk > > design/architecture now. > > > > Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the > user > > int

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

Quoting Om : I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk design/architecture now. Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the user interactively drag and drop components, apply layouts, change labels/titles etc. Conceptually, this is si

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

On 10/2/12 12:56 PM, "Om" wrote: > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk > design/architecture now. > > Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the user > interactively drag and drop components, apply layouts, change labels/title

Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk design/architecture now. Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the user interactively drag and drop components, apply layouts, change labels/titles etc. Conceptually, this is simple enough. Th