Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-07 Thread filippo dipisa
If Adobe would have chosen another comunication strategy probably Flex/Flash wouldn't be in this situation. They announced at the same time the stop of the development of the FlashPlayer for mobile and then the release ofFlex to Apache... We all know that are 2 complete different issues but the wor

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-06 Thread ganaraj p r
I complete agree with filippo. The issue with flex is not whether it is the best choice as a UI framework ( which it wins hands down... ) but the platform on which it is deployed. I was really saddened the day when a really good framework was shot down just because of horrible PR. I was supposed t

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Alex Harui
On 2/3/12 9:01 AM, "filippo dipisa" wrote: > So what is the message that the Apache Flex should give to the outside Flex > comunity to convice them to stay and to help apache as well? The message is now that you can actually make a difference. Before you could submit patches and wait forever.

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Laurent Jayr
Machinarium is the proof that mobile games with Flash is possible. Moreover, Starling is also coming soon with AIR 3.2 and it seems that performances for mobile games are pretty good... Le 4 févr. 2012 12:55, "Fil" a écrit : > > I totally agree with you. > Flex is definetly the winner at the momen

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Fil
I totally agree with you. Flex is definetly the winner at the moment in terms of features and i think it is good to continue to develop this project but moving out quickly from the flashplayer. javafx already added th fxml that is similar to mxml and it won t take long to have the same features

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread Andrew Morgan
I am in a similar situation, an enterprise app using Flex on JEE. While I really like the framework, the uncertainty around the Flash player and Adobe would give me serious cause for concern on a greenfield project. I think that the best thing Flex can do to sustain its viability is target other

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread filippo dipisa
It is obvious that a game use just As3 withou any flex libs Try to buy/download the few games developed in As3 for iphone and see the rendering performance On 3 February 2012 18:13, Nick Collins wrote: > Well, for a game like your use case I wouldn't be using Flex. Flex is an > enterprise applic

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread Nick Collins
Well, for a game like your use case I wouldn't be using Flex. Flex is an enterprise application development framework. For a game I would use pure AS3 with the game framework of your choice, depending on what you're looking for in terms of physics and such. Flex is going to give you a lot of overhe

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread filippo dipisa
On 3 February 2012 17:24, Rui Silva wrote: > > From: "filippo dipisa" > > > > 1)My problem is, if you have to start a greenfield project web based, > would > > you use Flex or go for another RIA solution like GWT that already > targets > > html5? > > Flex > Correct answer :) In the past we trie

re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread Rui Silva
> From: "filippo dipisa" > > 1)My problem is, if you have to start a greenfield project web based, would > you use Flex or go for another RIA solution like GWT that already targets > html5? Flex > 2)If you start a client(desktop)/server project should you use Scala and > JavaFx( that now you

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread filippo dipisa
> > > At the moment I think that many people out there they will try to avoid >> Flex because is Flashplayer driven, they don't trust Adobe anymore and it >> is not supported by the tablet or /smartphones. >> > That is a bit of a misnomer. You can't run Flash in mobile browsers > (except on mos

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread filippo dipisa
My questions are just to rise a discussion. We already know and decided what to use for the future UI development This questions Is just to understand the priorities to give faith back to Flex, because I know many Flex developers that are complaining against Adobe and trying to move out from Flex d

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread James Ong
You will find your question is quite general in this mailing list, rather, you should make the proper decision from Consumers data in Forrester Research. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Bruce Lane wrote: > Hi, > I would use AIR as it runs on the platforms and projects you need, and > I would

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 2/3/2012 11:26 AM, filippo dipisa wrote: 1)My problem is, if you have to start a greenfield project web based, would you use Flex or go for another RIA solution like GWT that already targets html5? It depends on the skills of the team, the budget, and timeline. At the moment I think that m

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread Bruce Lane
Hi, I would use AIR as it runs on the platforms and projects you need, and I would have faith in the wonderful apache flex community. Bruce On 3 February 2012 17:26, filippo dipisa wrote: > Hi everyone, > I want to rise some thoughts on the immediate future of Flex, considered by > the Java world

[discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-03 Thread filippo dipisa
Hi everyone, I want to rise some thoughts on the immediate future of Flex, considered by the Java world side At the moment we are using Flex 4.5, parsley, bla bla bla, as the presentation layer of some JEE applications as I think many of you are doing. 1)My problem is, if you have to start a gre