On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 09:57:39PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 7/13/2014 9:56 PM, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> > In ffplay?
>
> O U.
>
> At least we don't move libSDL to avdevice or something... :P
>
Well, actually...
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On 7/13/2014 9:56 PM, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> In ffplay?
O U.
At least we don't move libSDL to avdevice or something... :P
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On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 09:36:48PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 7/13/2014 9:27 PM, compn wrote:
> > googletv does not have easy shell and cannot mount smb. at least mine
> > cant
>
> See what I said about implementing support in the layer above (the player)
> instead of ffmpeg.
>
In ffpla
On 7/13/2014 9:27 PM, compn wrote:
> googletv does not have easy shell and cannot mount smb. at least mine
> cant
See what I said about implementing support in the layer above (the player)
instead of ffmpeg.
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:04:54 +0100
Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 7/13/2014 5:54 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> > You also ignored the case where user might have no access to shell
> > at all to mount remote fs.
>
> That's a pretty damn specialized case.
googletv does not have easy shell and cannot mo
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 06:44:21PM +0200, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> On 13.07.2014 18:04, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> >On 7/12/2014 5:20 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> >>+libsmbclient_protocol_deps="libsmbclient gpl"
> >
> >Samba is actually GPLv3, so you need to add dependency on that.
>
> Fixed.
> Changel
Le quintidi 25 messidor, an CCXXII, Lukasz Marek a écrit :
> I am not sure about that. I agree it is a bit strange libavformat
> has both (de)muxers and protocols.
Some protocols are tied tightly to the corresponding muxer or demuxer, or
the other way around.
And anyway, what good would it do sep
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:54:16 +0100
Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> Personally I've always thought it would be preferable to integrate something
> like libcurl instead of writing our own implementations of every little
> protocol, and the terrible mess that is our TLS support.
+1
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On 7/13/2014 6:51 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> - You can not dig a hole without a shovel.
> - Yes, you can, if someone already dug it.
Your analogy is flawed, of course. If the hole is "accessing the file on a CIFS
share",
then it's more like:
- You need to dig a hole, but you need a permit.
- Pe
On 7/13/2014 6:38 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> I am not sure about that. I agree it is a bit strange libavformat has
> both (de)muxers and protocols. I would expect it to be separated, but
> overall I don't don't agree it is bad ffmpeg has them at all.
Such a library exists. It's called libcurl.
>
Le quintidi 25 messidor, an CCXXII, Derek Buitenhuis a écrit :
> You claimed its not possible, and it indeed is, with proper setup.
- You can not dig a hole without a shovel.
- Yes, you can, if someone already dug it.
This is getting silly and boring, count me out.
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On 7/13/2014 6:31 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le quintidi 25 messidor, an CCXXII, Derek Buitenhuis a écrit :
>> You skillfully ignored the words "with proper setup", good job.
>
> I did not think you would insist on your "no true Scotsman" fallacy.
>
> Fact is that mounting is often not possible,
On 13.07.2014 19:04, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/13/2014 5:54 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
You also ignored the case where user might have no access to shell at
all to mount remote fs.
That's a pretty damn specialized case.
Also, I wouldn't like a player (or anything else) mount anything under
c
Le quintidi 25 messidor, an CCXXII, Derek Buitenhuis a écrit :
> You skillfully ignored the words "with proper setup", good job.
I did not think you would insist on your "no true Scotsman" fallacy.
Fact is that mounting is often not possible, and running ffmpeg in that case
is still legitimate, i
On 7/13/2014 5:54 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> You also ignored the case where user might have no access to shell at
> all to mount remote fs.
That's a pretty damn specialized case.
> Also, I wouldn't like a player (or anything else) mount anything under
> carpet on my workstation. Case when I'm f
On 13.07.2014 18:17, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/13/2014 5:10 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
Technically, wrong.
Technically right. Do you want an unprivileged account somewhere so I can
dare you to mount something with FUSE (without using a local root exploit of
course, that would be cheating)?
On 13.07.2014 18:04, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/12/2014 5:20 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
+libsmbclient_protocol_deps="libsmbclient gpl"
Samba is actually GPLv3, so you need to add dependency on that.
Fixed.
>From 2218dd824524265e563c9df113c07179d74c982c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Lukasz Ma
On 7/13/2014 5:10 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
>> Technically, wrong.
>
> Technically right. Do you want an unprivileged account somewhere so I can
> dare you to mount something with FUSE (without using a local root exploit of
> course, that would be cheating)?
You skillfully ignored the words "with
Le quintidi 25 messidor, an CCXXII, Derek Buitenhuis a écrit :
> Technically, wrong.
Technically right. Do you want an unprivileged account somewhere so I can
dare you to mount something with FUSE (without using a local root exploit of
course, that would be cheating)?
> You're going to mount a re
On 7/12/2014 5:20 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> +libsmbclient_protocol_deps="libsmbclient gpl"
Samba is actually GPLv3, so you need to add dependency on that.
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On 7/13/2014 4:58 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Not wrong, merely too concise for the inattentive reader.
Technically, wrong. Since with proper setup you *can* achieve the
goal.
> And indeed, I know of several hosting services where FUSE is not enabled.
> Low-end VPS services frequently fall in tha
Le quintidi 25 messidor, an CCXXII, Derek Buitenhuis a écrit :
> Wrong. FUSE lets you mount samba shares as non-root.
Not wrong, merely too concise for the inattentive reader.
You need root privileges to install FUSE on a system and enable it for any
or all users: FUSE does not allow to mount wit
On 7/13/2014 2:39 PM, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> - it is right you say for desktops where you have access to shell (and
> root?), but how about cases where you create some embedded system
> without shell access or have no root?
FUSE allows non-rot mounts.
> - you should still consider users that are
On 7/13/2014 2:36 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> and mounting requires root privileges.
Wrong. FUSE lets you mount samba shares as non-root.
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On 13.07.2014 15:22, wm4 wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:20:46 +0200
Lukasz Marek wrote:
---
Changelog | 1 +
configure | 5 ++
doc/general.texi | 1 +
doc/protocols.texi | 29 +++
libavformat/Makefile | 1 +
libavform
Le quintidi 25 messidor, an CCXXII, wm4 a écrit :
> You can mount samba shares directly in most (all?) desktop OSes.
FFmpeg is not used on desktop, and mounting requires root privileges.
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On 13.07.2014 13:47, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:55:47AM +0200, Lukasz Marek wrote:
On 12.07.2014 22:31, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 06:20:46PM +0200, Lukasz Marek wrote:
die_license_disabled gpl frei0r
die_license_disabled gpl libcdio
+die_
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:20:46 +0200
Lukasz Marek wrote:
> ---
> Changelog | 1 +
> configure | 5 ++
> doc/general.texi | 1 +
> doc/protocols.texi | 29 +++
> libavformat/Makefile | 1 +
> libavformat/allformats.c | 1 +
>
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:55:47AM +0200, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> On 12.07.2014 22:31, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 06:20:46PM +0200, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> >>---
> >> Changelog | 1 +
> >> configure | 5 ++
> >> doc/general.texi
On 12.07.2014 22:31, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 06:20:46PM +0200, Lukasz Marek wrote:
---
Changelog | 1 +
configure | 5 ++
doc/general.texi | 1 +
doc/protocols.texi | 29 +++
libavformat/Makefile
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 06:20:46PM +0200, Lukasz Marek wrote:
> ---
> Changelog | 1 +
> configure | 5 ++
> doc/general.texi | 1 +
> doc/protocols.texi | 29 +++
> libavformat/Makefile | 1 +
> libavformat/allformats.c |
On Jul 12, 2014 9:21 AM, "Lukasz Marek" wrote:
>
> ---
> Changelog | 1 +
> configure | 5 ++
> doc/general.texi | 1 +
> doc/protocols.texi | 29 +++
> libavformat/Makefile | 1 +
> libavformat/allformats.c | 1 +
> libav
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