Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-18 Thread Stefano Sabatini
On date Wednesday 2023-10-18 19:30:11 +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Le keskiviikkona 18. lokakuuta 2023, 0.57.45 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit > : > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:50:41PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: [...] > > > What happens if more than one credible developer wants to

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-18 Thread Stefano Sabatini
On date Tuesday 2023-10-17 16:58:41 +, ffmpeg-devel Mailing List wrote: > > > > On Oct 17, 2023, at 7:36 AM, Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 07:53:04PM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > >> > >> It would be useful at this point to define the process to accept

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-18 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le keskiviikkona 18. lokakuuta 2023, 0.57.45 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit : > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:50:41PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > > Le perjantaina 13. lokakuuta 2023, 22.19.34 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit : > > > But some goals would probably be to make sws > > > * plea

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-17 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:57:45PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:50:41PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: [...] > > If the revenue and balance were much higher, you could > > hire all of them. But you can't, and then the simplest and safest way to > > avoid > > m

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-17 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:50:41PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Le perjantaina 13. lokakuuta 2023, 22.19.34 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit : > > But some goals would probably be to make sws > > * pleasent to work with > > * similar speed or faster > > * proper multithreading > > * proper f

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-17 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le perjantaina 13. lokakuuta 2023, 22.19.34 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit : > But some goals would probably be to make sws > * pleasent to work with > * similar speed or faster > * proper multithreading > * proper full colorspace convertion not ignoring gamma, primaries, ... > * clean / understa

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-17 Thread James Almer
On 10/14/2023 2:53 PM, Stefano Sabatini wrote: On date Friday 2023-10-13 21:19:34 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi everyone I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC logs from yesterday or so) So it re

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-17 Thread Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
> On Oct 17, 2023, at 7:36 AM, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 07:53:04PM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote: >> >> It would be useful at this point to define the process to accept the >> proposal and potential candidates. We have a technical committee which >> might take

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-17 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 07:53:04PM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > On date Friday 2023-10-13 21:19:34 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi everyone > > > > I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. > > this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC lo

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-15 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 07:24:51PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote: > On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 19:00:36 +0200 Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > Well there are 2 further aspects with that. > > > > The first one is bluntly put. If you dont understand the old code, then > > you probably are not qualified to

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 1:00 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > PS: whats the real issue with sws ? > it evolved out of a piece yuv->rgb converter from a video player. > It evolved from that and stuff was added into it. > This is a similar situation to why ffmpeg.c needed cleanup > I'll give you

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Stefano Sabatini
On date Friday 2023-10-13 21:19:34 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi everyone > > I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. > this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC logs > from yesterday or so) > So it really is more a small price for a good

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Kieran Kunhya
On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 18:00 Michael Niedermayer, wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 03:19:49PM +0100, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 at 00:17, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel < > > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 13, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Vittorio Giovara <

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Kieran Kunhya (2023-10-14 16:19:49) > On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 at 00:17, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel < > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Oct 13, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Vittorio Giovara < > > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > TBF this is in part why i was suggest

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Niklas Haas
On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 19:00:36 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Well there are 2 further aspects with that. > > The first one is bluntly put. If you dont understand the old code, then > you probably are not qualified to write better code. > People tend not to successfully improve things they don

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 03:19:49PM +0100, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 at 00:17, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel < > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Oct 13, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Vittorio Giovara < > > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > TBF this is in par

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 11:16:50PM +, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel wrote: > > > > On Oct 13, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Vittorio Giovara > > wrote: > > > > TBF this is in part why i was suggesting a new library - I feel like sws is > > affected by bad brading because of these caching issu

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-14 Thread Kieran Kunhya
On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 at 00:17, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel < ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > > On Oct 13, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Vittorio Giovara < > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > TBF this is in part why i was suggesting a new library - I feel like sws > is > > affected by bad b

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
> On Oct 13, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Vittorio Giovara > wrote: > > TBF this is in part why i was suggesting a new library - I feel like sws is > affected by bad brading because of these caching issues and imprecise > conversion, and a new clean api in a new library would make a lot of sense > in my

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 6:55 PM Niklas Haas wrote: > On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 19:42:44 -0300 James Almer wrote: > > Anton wrote and pushed an AVFrame based API. It can surely be > > improved/extended to use AVFrame metadata. > > Yes, this is actually a good idea. This API endpoint already has the > "

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Niklas Haas
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 19:42:44 -0300 James Almer wrote: > Anton wrote and pushed an AVFrame based API. It can surely be > improved/extended to use AVFrame metadata. Yes, this is actually a good idea. This API endpoint already has the "correct" signature, so we could definitely re-use it (and SwsCo

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Niklas Haas
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 21:19:34 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi everyone > > I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. > this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC logs > from yesterday or so) > So it really is more a small price for a good deed

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 04:30:56PM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 3:19 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > Hi everyone > > > > I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. > > this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC > > log

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Lynne
Oct 13, 2023, 22:31 by vittorio.giov...@gmail.com: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 3:19 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > >> Hi everyone >> >> I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. >> this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC >> logs from yesterday or

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 3:19 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi everyone > > I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. > this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC > logs from yesterday or so) > So it really is more a small price for a good deed and n

[FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding Suggestion

2023-10-13 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi everyone I propose using 15k$ from SPI for funding sws cleanup work. this is substantially less than what people belive this needs (see IRC logs from yesterday or so) So it really is more a small price for a good deed and not proper payment. This of course is only available to competent develo