Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-12-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, at 21:50, Thilo Borgmann wrote: > no more replies against, so we shift the time to 15:00 UTC (7:00 US West, > 16:00 > Berlin/London/Paris, 23:00 Peking). > > Happening at #ffmpeg-meeting. This is in 1 hour, now. -- Jean-Baptiste Kempf - President +33 672 704 734 _

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-12-03 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Hi, we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. Please give your preferences for a date here: https://framadate.org/g1FPmOpfEz9mSLg9 one week later, we have settled for having the FFDev meeti

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-19 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Am 19.11.20 um 06:01 schrieb Steven Liu: > > >> 2020年11月19日 下午12:05,Zane van Iperen 写道: >> >> >> >> On 19/11/20 1:46 pm, Steven Liu wrote: 2020年11月18日 下午8:59,Thilo Borgmann 写道: Hi, > we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule > anyway. So I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Steven Liu
> 2020年11月19日 下午12:05,Zane van Iperen 写道: > > > > On 19/11/20 1:46 pm, Steven Liu wrote: >>> 2020年11月18日 下午8:59,Thilo Borgmann 写道: >>> >>> Hi, >>> we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. So I'd propose having another developer meeting before

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Zane van Iperen
On 19/11/20 1:46 pm, Steven Liu wrote: 2020年11月18日 下午8:59,Thilo Borgmann 写道: Hi, we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. Please give your preferences for a date here: https://framad

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Steven Liu
> 2020年11月18日 下午8:59,Thilo Borgmann 写道: > > Hi, > >> we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. >> So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. >> >> Please give your preferences for a date here: >> https://framadate.org/g1FPmOpfEz9mSL

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Hi, > we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. > So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. > > Please give your preferences for a date here: > https://framadate.org/g1FPmOpfEz9mSLg9 one week later, we have settled for having the FFDe

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-12 Thread Nicolas George
Ronald S. Bultje (12020-11-11): > > Also, I believe it would be good for us internally, since it would > > - allow other libraries to do IO cleanly without depending on lavf > > - force us to clean up avio public API, which is not in a great shape > > Avio public API would be great, regardless of

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 10:45 AM Anton Khirnov wrote: > Quoting James Almer (2020-11-11 14:13:07) > > I don't recall anything about splitting IO, but what does it achieve > > beyond making lavf lighter? Are there users out there that could care > > about linking to an hypothetical lavio whil

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Lynne
Nov 11, 2020, 12:20 by thilo.borgm...@mail.de: > Hi, > > we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. > So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. > > Please give your preferences for a date here: > https://framadate.org/g1FPmOpfEz9mSLg9 >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Paul B Mahol
Absolutely disagree, please leave. On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 5:21 PM Nicolas George wrote: > Vittorio Giovara (12020-11-11): > > Sounds like a good topic to discuss at a developer meeting! > > No, that's precisely not, this is the kind of topic that needs > paragraphs, not lines. > > Regards, > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Vittorio Giovara (12020-11-11): > Sounds like a good topic to discuss at a developer meeting! No, that's precisely not, this is the kind of topic that needs paragraphs, not lines. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 4:52 PM Nicolas George wrote: > Anton Khirnov (12020-11-11): > > I gave you arguments last time this was discussed. You keep ignoring > > them, > > I did not ignore them, I replied to them, by pointing to you that there > are better ways to achieve the things in your argum

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Am Mi., 11. Nov. 2020 um 16:49 Uhr schrieb Anton Khirnov : > I gave you arguments last time this was discussed. You keep ignoring > them, because presumably you are the sole arbiter of what is actual and > practical. I am not convinced that you are in an ideal position for personal attacks. Carl

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Anton Khirnov (12020-11-11): > I gave you arguments last time this was discussed. You keep ignoring > them, I did not ignore them, I replied to them, by pointing to you that there are better ways to achieve the things in your arguments. > because presumably you are the sole arbiter of what

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Nicolas George (2020-11-11 15:05:35) > What about the people who want to keep the libs separate give actual > practical arguments? I gave you arguments last time this was discussed. You keep ignoring them, because presumably you are the sole arbiter of what is actual and practical. I am n

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting James Almer (2020-11-11 14:13:07) > On 11/11/2020 10:05 AM, Thilo Borgmann wrote: > > Am 11.11.20 um 14:04 schrieb Thilo Borgmann: > >> Am 11.11.20 um 13:01 schrieb Steven Liu: > >>> Thilo Borgmann 于2020年11月11日周三 下午7:20写道: > > Hi, > > we haven't had a meeting for quite

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Kieran Kunhya
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 11:20, Thilo Borgmann wrote: > Current agenda proposals, feel free to add to it: > I would like to propose FFmpeg/SPI purchase a Mac Mini ARM machine for development (and FATE if required). Obviously this will be an important platform in the coming years. Kieran _

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Steven Liu (12020-11-11): > What about make and option in configure and let the option be choosed by > users? It is the worst of the two options combined, with extra drawbacks: we still have to deal with all the avpriv nonsense, and we get to maintain both systems. What about the people who want

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Steven Liu
Steven Liu 于2020年11月11日周三 下午9:29写道: > > Nicolas George 于2020年11月11日周三 下午9:20写道: > > > > James Almer (12020-11-11): > > > What i know we were discussing was to merge lavd into lavf, since their > > > current dependency state is pretty hacky and makes development and > > > extension > > > of certa

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020, at 14:20, Nicolas George wrote: > In fact, nothing should be on a developers meeting agenda that has not > already been extensively discussed on the list. Absolutely totally disagree. A meeting is here to discuss about things. Including things not on the agenda. By discussin

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Steven Liu
Nicolas George 于2020年11月11日周三 下午9:20写道: > > James Almer (12020-11-11): > > What i know we were discussing was to merge lavd into lavf, since their > > current dependency state is pretty hacky and makes development and extension > > of certain lavf public structs a pain. > > It's why i didn't apply

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
James Almer (12020-11-11): > What i know we were discussing was to merge lavd into lavf, since their > current dependency state is pretty hacky and makes development and extension > of certain lavf public structs a pain. > It's why i didn't apply my iterate api set just yet. > > I don't recall any

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Am 11.11.20 um 14:13 schrieb James Almer: > On 11/11/2020 10:05 AM, Thilo Borgmann wrote: >> Am 11.11.20 um 14:04 schrieb Thilo Borgmann: >>> Am 11.11.20 um 13:01 schrieb Steven Liu: Thilo Borgmann 于2020年11月11日周三 下午7:20写道: > > Hi, > > we haven't had a meeting for quite some ti

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread James Almer
On 11/11/2020 10:05 AM, Thilo Borgmann wrote: Am 11.11.20 um 14:04 schrieb Thilo Borgmann: Am 11.11.20 um 13:01 schrieb Steven Liu: Thilo Borgmann 于2020年11月11日周三 下午7:20写道: Hi, we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. So I'd propose having another develop

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Am 11.11.20 um 14:04 schrieb Thilo Borgmann: > Am 11.11.20 um 13:01 schrieb Steven Liu: >> Thilo Borgmann 于2020年11月11日周三 下午7:20写道: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule >>> anyway. So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of yea

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Am 11.11.20 um 13:01 schrieb Steven Liu: > Thilo Borgmann 于2020年11月11日周三 下午7:20写道: >> >> Hi, >> >> we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. >> So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. >> >> Please give your preferences for a date here

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 1:08 PM Steven Liu wrote: > Thilo Borgmann 于2020年11月11日周三 下午7:20写道: > > > > Hi, > > > > we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule > anyway. So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. > > > > Please give your preferences

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Steven Liu
Thilo Borgmann 于2020年11月11日周三 下午7:20写道: > > Hi, > > we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. > So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. > > Please give your preferences for a date here: > https://framadate.org/g1FPmOpfEz9mSLg9 > > Cur

[FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting

2020-11-11 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Hi, we haven't had a meeting for quite some time and are beyond schedule anyway. So I'd propose having another developer meeting before end of year. Please give your preferences for a date here: https://framadate.org/g1FPmOpfEz9mSLg9 Current agenda proposals, feel free to add to it: - Tech / C

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting...

2019-12-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, at 00:22, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > will do our next meeting, Monday 9 December 2019, at 17:00 > Berlin/Paris/Brussels time. > > The time is selected so that people in China and in South America can join us. > > It will be online, with live comments/discussion on IRC. Se

[FFmpeg-devel] Next developer meeting...

2019-12-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Hello Folks, Following the previous discussions, and the decisions taken during the last IRL meeting, summarized here: https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2019-November/253153.html we will do our next meeting, Monday 9 December 2019, at 17:00 Berlin/Paris/Brussels time. The time is select