ons 2025-02-12 klockan 12:49 +0100 skrev Nicolas George:
> Tomas Härdin (HE12025-02-12):
> > This is aristocracy, not democracy.
>
> Why do you believe democracy would be a good model for a Libre
> Software
> project?
The title of the thread includes the word "democratization"..
Plenty of free s
Tomas Härdin (HE12025-02-12):
> This is aristocracy, not democracy.
Why do you believe democracy would be a good model for a Libre Software
project? Why do you believe the opinion of people should matter
irregardless of the quality and merit of their contribution to the
project?
(There is an obvi
ons 2025-01-29 klockan 21:33 +0100 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> Make Voting Power Proportional to Contributions
> Fair Representation: Allocate voting power based on
> contributions, ensuring that those who dedicate substantial time and
> effort to the project have a stronger voice than
Michael Niedermayer (12025-02-03):
> Lets assume we have 2 projects in one the vulnerability was taken advantage of
> while in the other it was not.
>
> How would you tell them apart ?
One of them would have a software-defined radio subsystem, the other
not.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
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Hi
On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 03:14:58PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 2/1/2025 6:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi James
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > > On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
[...]
> , the text points this out in a mockin
On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 7:08 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> Hi James
>
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 03:14:58PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > On 2/1/2025 6:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Hi James
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > > > On 1/31/2025 9:
Hi James
On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 03:14:58PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 2/1/2025 6:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi James
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > > On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > Hi James
> > > >
> > > > On Fri
Michael,
On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 4:53 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> The system is absurd, the text points this out in a mocking/ironic way.
> If you want me to reword this in a dry formal way, i can submit such a
> patch?
>
Every system is absurd. "If everyone just agreed with me, then ..." Th
On 2/1/2025 7:27 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi James
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
[...]
has worked. Changing it now because one person was unhappy with a CC (That
This is a false statement. Iam not sugge
On 2/1/2025 6:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi James
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi James
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Niklas Ha
Hi
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 02:45:26PM +0800, Zhao Zhili wrote:
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 2025, at 08:49, Michael Niedermayer
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi James
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> >> On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> >>> Niklas Haas (12025-01-
On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 3:26 AM Leo Izen wrote:
> While this isn't an entirely analogous situation, most contributors who
> are active have been active since they started contributing, so this
> doesn't do a whole lot except to pick out people who used to be active
> and then stopped and then star
> -Original Message-
> From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of Leo
> Izen
> Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 3:26 AM
> To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
>
> On 1/31/25 11:01 AM, Soft Works wrote:
[..]
On 1/31/25 11:01 AM, Soft Works wrote:
-Original Message-
From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of
James Almer
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2025 4:45 PM
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
Past involvement, including long-past
Hi Nicolas
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 09:44:50PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer (12025-01-29):
> > Hi all
> >
> > Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people
> > can discuss if they like)
>
> Counter-proposal:
>
> By any sane measure of merit to
Hi Michael,
On Sat, 1 Feb 2025, 22:27 Michael Niedermayer,
wrote:
>
> Lets be carefull here with the words. But the awnser is "yes"
> Many developers have been paid to write commits. employees, contractors,
> students
>
As an FFlabs employee (which I believe is the biggest GA cohort) and
shareh
Hi James
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
[...]
> >
> >
> > > has worked. Changing it now because one person was unhappy with a CC (That
> >
> > This is a false statement. Iam not suggesting a change to the GA because
Hi James
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi James
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > > On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> > > > Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
> > [...
Michael Niedermayer (12025-01-29):
> Hi all
>
> Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people
> can discuss if they like)
Counter-proposal:
By any sane measure of merit towards the project you would get more
votes than anybody else, that makes no sense. So, instead
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 1, 2025, at 3:11 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>> On Sat, 1 Feb 2025, at 07:45, Zhao Zhili wrote:
>> The proposal treat every GA member as suspect, and GA members with
>> daily jobs guilty.
>>
>> The community should be based on trust and everyone s
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 1, 2025, at 2:21 PM, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 1:45 AM Zhao Zhili <
>> quinkblack-at-foxmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>>
>> The proposal treat every GA member as suspect, and GA members with daily
>> jobs guilty.
>
>
> Thank you
Hello,
On Sat, 1 Feb 2025, at 07:45, Zhao Zhili wrote:
> The proposal treat every GA member as suspect, and GA members with
> daily jobs guilty.
>
> The community should be based on trust and everyone should be trust
> equally,
+1
> It’s dangerous to fix the vulnerability in the GA by make G
On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi James
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
[...]
On the other hand, I believe this whole plan is a bad idea.
Yes, it is a bad idea. We have had
Hi,
On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 1:45 AM Zhao Zhili <
quinkblack-at-foxmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> The proposal treat every GA member as suspect, and GA members with daily
> jobs guilty.
Thank you for saying this. I couldn't agree more.
Ronald
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ffmpeg
> On Feb 1, 2025, at 08:49, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
> Hi James
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
>> On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
>>> Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
> [...]
>>> On the other hand, I believe this whole plan is a bad idea.
>> Yes, it
Hi James
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
[...]
> > On the other hand, I believe this whole plan is a bad idea.
> Yes, it is a bad idea. We have had the current system in place for about
> fiv
On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
This should be time-gated to count only commits in the recent, say, 3
years (to match the current GA cycle). Counting purely historical
commits seems odd.
On the other hand, we should give more weight to the opinion of peo
> -Original Message-
> From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of
> James Almer
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2025 4:45 PM
> To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
>
> > Past involvement, including long-pa
Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
> This should be time-gated to count only commits in the recent, say, 3
> years (to match the current GA cycle). Counting purely historical
> commits seems odd.
On the other hand, we should give more weight to the opinion of people
who have been around for many years and
Michael Niedermayer (12025-01-30):
> If instead of a hypothetical case, you use real cases
> like for example any successfull company (not just on the stock market
> but that too)
If we compare ffmpeg to a company (a dangerous comparison, as the goals
of FFmpeg are quite different, but let us roll
Hi Niklas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:43:13AM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 21:33:21 +0100 Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people
> > can discuss if they like)
> >
> > Goals:
> > The prop
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 9:33 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so
> people can discuss if they like)
>
> Goals:
> The proposed changes aim to improve the General Assembly's structure
> to ensure inclusivity, fairness,
@ffmpeg.org
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
> >
> > On 1/29/25 3:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem,
> > so people
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 21:33:21 +0100 Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people
> can discuss if they like)
>
> Goals:
> The proposed changes aim to improve the General Assembly's structure to
> ensure inclusivity, fai
> -Original Message-
> From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of Leo
> Izen
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2025 10:39 PM
> To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
>
> On 1/29/25 3:33 PM, Michael Niede
Leo Izen (12025-01-29):
> I have been silent on this for a very long time, but I would like to point
> out at this point that Michael has approximately five times as many commits
> as the next-most prolific contributor (Andreas).
We can add that Michael's commits tend to be more complex.
This is
On 1/29/25 3:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi all
Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people can
discuss if they like)
Goals:
The proposed changes aim to improve the General Assembly's structure to
ensure inclusivity, fairness, and resilience against
Hi all
Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people can
discuss if they like)
Goals:
The proposed changes aim to improve the General Assembly's structure to
ensure inclusivity, fairness, and resilience against attacks. The key goals are
as follows:
Increa
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