On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 11:28:07 +0100
Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-12-08 15:53 GMT+01:00 wm4 :
> > advanced hardware transcoding (I'm still waiting for related
> > work to be merged from Libav).
>
> Didn't you tell the responsible developer not to send his patches
> here implying you did not wa
2016-12-08 15:53 GMT+01:00 wm4 :
> advanced hardware transcoding (I'm still waiting for related
> work to be merged from Libav).
Didn't you tell the responsible developer not to send his patches
here implying you did not want them committed to FFmpeg?
Carl Eugen
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On 09.12.2016 10:26, wm4 wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 00:30:24 +0100
> Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
>
>> On 08.12.2016 15:53, wm4 wrote:
>>> (I'm still waiting for related work to be merged from Libav).
>>
>> Why don't you merge it yourself instead of waiting for others?
>
> The commit to be merged
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 00:30:24 +0100
Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> On 08.12.2016 15:53, wm4 wrote:
> > (I'm still waiting for related work to be merged from Libav).
>
> Why don't you merge it yourself instead of waiting for others?
The commit to be merged next appears to have some intrusive h264 de
On 08.12.2016 15:53, wm4 wrote:
> (I'm still waiting for related work to be merged from Libav).
Why don't you merge it yourself instead of waiting for others?
> So yes, removing things can mean progress.
However, removing ffserver now doesn't, because the libraries
have to keep backwards-compati
On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:33:20 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit :
> > I explained it. Read it.
>
> It prooves you still do not understand the principle.
You've demonstrated the complete inability to counter my arguments.
Maybe you didn't even understand t
L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit :
> I explained it. Read it.
It prooves you still do not understand the principle.
Fortunately, the others do.
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:02:18 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit :
> > 3. It's entangled with the rest of the project and stops people from
> > doing useful work.
>
> If it does not prevent build failures and is not present in the normal
> execution path, w
L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit :
> 3. It's entangled with the rest of the project and stops people from
> doing useful work.
If it does not prevent build failures and is not present in the normal
execution path, what does it even MEANS? Nothing!
> Proof: Libav.
W
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:29:58 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> Le quintidi 15 frimaire, an CCXXV, Rostislav Pehlivanov a écrit :
> > I need more time to decide.
>
> You supported dropping ffserver since before the vote started, and now
> you are hesitating? Seriously?
>
> Arriving at the last minu
On 12/7/2016 3:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-12-05 16:03 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>
>>> Which reasons were not adressed?
>>
>> <@wbs>
>
> I am unfortunately unable to express how offensive and mean I
> consider your answer.
Thanks for not expressing it. I'm not interested in hearing about
Le septidi 17 frimaire, an CCXXV, Ronald S. Bultje a écrit :
> I believe you missed Carl Eugen's vote (or at least I read it as a vote):
> http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2016-December/203915.html
Indeed, thanks for noticing. I belive it counts as "keep (slightly
invalid)".
Regards,
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Hi,
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> keepAndreas Cadhalpun
> keepMarton Balint
> keepMichael Niedermayer (slightly invalid)
> keepNicolas George
> keepReynaldo H. Verdejo Pinochet (slightly invalid)
I believe you missed Carl Eugen's vote (or at least
2016-12-05 16:03 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>> Which reasons were not adressed?
>
> <@wbs>
I am unfortunately unable to express how offensive and mean I
consider your answer.
It's really extraordinarily disappointing.
Carl Eugen
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Le quintidi 15 frimaire, an CCXXV, Rostislav Pehlivanov a écrit :
> I need more time to decide.
You supported dropping ffserver since before the vote started, and now
you are hesitating? Seriously?
Arriving at the last minute when it became obvious the tide turned to
ensure a longer delay. Where
On 5 Dec 2016 6:45 a.m., "wm4" wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:15:28 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In
On 12/5/2016 11:45 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-12-05 15:23 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>> On 12/5/2016 7:20 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
>>> 2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>>>
>> He's
Hi,
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-12-05 15:23 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
> > The technical reasons are there, described in the news entry you seem to
> > not want to read, or at least properly parse.
> > These past week however saw one developer working against the
2016-12-05 15:23 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
> On 12/5/2016 7:20 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
>> 2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>>> On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>>
> He's trying to override an announced project decision of rem
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:15:28 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical problem
On 11/28/2016 3:15 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical problems that require
On 12/5/2016 7:20 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>> On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
>>> 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>
He's trying to override an announced project decision of removing a
feature.
>>>
>>> We - obviously -
2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
> On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
>> 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>>> He's trying to override an announced project decision of removing a feature.
>>
>> We - obviously - announced it to find somebody who would fix the issues
>> ra
I support the decision to keep ffserver
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On 28.11.2016 19:15, Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical problems that require d
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Nicolas George wrote:
Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
to it.
I vote for keeping ffserver, as there are people working on it a
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 03:11:33PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
> >
> > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of t
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical pr
On 28.11.2016 19:53, Lou Logan wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
ffserver has users
I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there
may be? How much feedback has there been from these alleged users
regarding the removal plans?
I don't hav
2016-11-30 23:29 GMT+08:00 Nicolas George :
> Le nonidi 9 frimaire, an CCXXV, James Almer a écrit :
> > Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect
> him to
> > maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree? Or
> is he
> > just fighting this fight to
Le nonidi 9 frimaire, an CCXXV, James Almer a écrit :
> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to
> maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree? Or is he
> just fighting this fight to not remove code for the sake of not removing code,
> and
On 11/29/16, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>> On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
>>> 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>>>
Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect
him to
maintain it, improve and ex
On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>> On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
>>> 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>>>
Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him
to
maintain it, impr
2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
> On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
>> 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>>
>>> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to
>>> maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree?
>>
>> Ho
On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:
> 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
>
>> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to
>> maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree?
>
> How is this related?
> For which part of FFmpeg c
2016-11-28 19:15 GMT+01:00 Nicolas George :
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
Could you point me to this decision?
What were the reasons a
2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer :
> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to
> maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree?
How is this related?
For which part of FFmpeg can we "expect" anybody to maintain it?
> Or is he just fig
On 11/29/16, James Almer wrote:
> On 11/28/2016 5:52 PM, Clement Boesch wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
>>> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
>>> is revoked, conditioned to the
On 11/28/2016 5:52 PM, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
>> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>>
>> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
>> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:15:28 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical problem
On 11/29/2016 3:46 PM, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> On date Monday 2016-11-28 19:15:28 +0100, Nicolas George encoded:
>> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>>
>> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
>> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that
Hi Stefano,
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stefano Sabatini
wrote:
> On date Monday 2016-11-28 19:15:28 +0100, Nicolas George encoded:
> > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
> >
> > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing
On date Monday 2016-11-28 19:15:28 +0100, Nicolas George encoded:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical proble
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 09:52:02PM +0100, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
> >
> > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the tec
On 11/28/2016 5:40 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 09:53:39AM -0900, Lou Logan wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
>>>
>>> ffserver has users
>>
>> I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there
>> may be? How much feed
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC.
>
> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
> to it.
>
> In other words, if the technical p
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 09:53:39AM -0900, Lou Logan wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> >
> > ffserver has users
>
> I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there
> may be? How much feedback has there been from these alleged users
> regardin
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
>
> ffserver has users
I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there
may be? How much feedback has there been from these alleged users
regarding the removal plans?
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I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver
is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead
to it.
In other words, if the technical problems that require dropping ffserver
are resolved at the time it is about to
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