[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Ian Z via Exim-users
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 09:05:15PM GMT, Jeremy Harris via Exim-users wrote: > > It doesn't look like the address_data way of getting the forwading > > address will work for full sieve / exim filters, does it? Chris already went most of the way to answering this (in the negative). So feel free to

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Chris Siebenmann via Exim-users
> > The corollary and implication of this is that if you have routers > > that will only work properly once the message is fully received > > (because they require headers or ACL variables only set then), you > > need to mark them as no_verify, and possibly write verify_only > > versions that do ad

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 17/05/2024 20:15, Ian Z via Exim-users wrote: It doesn't look like the address_data way of getting the forwading address will work for full sieve / exim filters, does it? If - the redirect router that runs the filter has not disabled itself for verify (cf. the no_verify option) - the rout

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Ian Z via Exim-users
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 07:50:53PM GMT, Jeremy Harris via Exim-users wrote: > > But what do you mean by "properly"? How does a router do > > verification "improperly"? > A router depends on all the options set for it. Typically, a router > will only depend on things that are already available at

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 17/05/2024 19:22, Ian Z via Exim-users wrote: But what do you mean by "properly"? How does a router do verification "improperly"? A router depends on all the options set for it. Typically, a router will only depend on things that are already available at ACL time (for example, the recipient

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Ian Z via Exim-users
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 11:22:45AM GMT, Ian Z via Exim-users wrote: > And regardless of the answer to the above, if I do add no_verify to > the redirect router in question, Lena's solution to the problem of > getting the forwarding address into an ACL ceases to be available. To cut short any spec

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Ian Z via Exim-users
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:39:19AM GMT, Chris Siebenmann via Exim-users wrote: Again sorry to persist in my obtuseness, but ... > > > But my question is about verification, and in particular about > > > the situation where a RCPT stage ACL will have verify = > > > recipient. The filter can't be e

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-17 Thread Chris Siebenmann via Exim-users
> On 16/05/2024 22:32, Ian Z via Exim-users wrote: > > But my question is about verification, and in > > particular about the situation where a RCPT stage ACL will have verify > > = recipient. The filter can't be evaluated at that stage. > > Verification consists of running the routing process; the

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-16 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 16/05/2024 22:32, Ian Z via Exim-users wrote: But my question is about verification, and in particular about the situation where a RCPT stage ACL will have verify = recipient. The filter can't be evaluated at that stage. Verification consists of running the routing process; the same router c

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-16 Thread Ian Z via Exim-users
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:16:42PM GMT, Jeremy Harris via Exim-users wrote: > > But what about forwarding resulting from rules in user .forward > > files in either exim filter or sieve format? > It will be a redirect router acessing those files or filters. I understand that a redirect router wil

[exim] Re: Recipient verification and user .forward files

2024-05-16 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 16/05/2024 22:02, Ian Z via Exim-users wrote: But what about forwarding resulting from rules in user .forward files in either exim filter or sieve format? It will be a redirect router acessing those files or filters. -- Cheers, Jeremy -- ## subscription configuration (requires account):