Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread W B Hacker
Jakob Hirsch wrote: > W B Hacker, 2010-06-16 13:24: > > (sorry for repost) No sweat. > >> There is no MX RR for relay.rzone.de Exim appears to have found it by its >> A RR. > > You seem to think relay.rzone.de is the rcpt domain of the message the > OP had a message for. I think that is th

Re: [exim] ACL question

2010-06-16 Thread John Jetmore
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Sebastian Tennant wrote: > Quoth Sebastian Tennant : >> Try as I might, I can't get any ACLs to work. > > Many thanks to both respondents.  Noted and understood. > > May I suggest that the chapter in the manual on regular expressions be changed > to highlight the

Re: [exim] ACL question

2010-06-16 Thread Sebastian Tennant
Quoth Sebastian Tennant : > Try as I might, I can't get any ACLs to work. Many thanks to both respondents. Noted and understood. May I suggest that the chapter in the manual on regular expressions be changed to highlight the fact that Exim cannot handle delimiter-modifier notation (e.g., /foo|ba

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Chris Wilson
Hi Jakob, On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Jakob Hirsch wrote: >>> connected via the same physical network. Even in the very unlike case >>> that there is a transient problem at the time of the connection >>> attempt to the first address, which does not exist at the time of >>> second attempt, the deliver

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Jakob Hirsch
Chris Wilson, 2010-06-16 14:24: >> connected via the same physical network. Even in the very unlike case >> that there is a transient problem at the time of the connection attempt >> to the first address, which does not exist at the time of second >> attempt, the delivery will be retried again, mu

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Chris Wilson
Hi Jakob, On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Jakob Hirsch wrote: >>> relays was blocked on my mailserver because it connected to the second >>> MX without trying the first one before... >> >> For the reasons that Heiko and Graeme gave, I would strongly recommend >> against blocking anyone on this basis. (i.e. t

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Jakob Hirsch
Chris Wilson, 2010-06-16 13:48: >> relays was blocked on my mailserver because it connected to the second >> MX without trying the first one before... > For the reasons that Heiko and Graeme gave, I would strongly recommend > against blocking anyone on this basis. (i.e. there could have been a >

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Jakob Hirsch
W B Hacker, 2010-06-16 13:24: (sorry for repost) > There is no MX RR for relay.rzone.de Exim appears to have found it by its A > RR. You seem to think relay.rzone.de is the rcpt domain of the message the OP had a message for. But it's only a hostname listed as a MX for some domain. > Either

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Chris Wilson
Hi Jakob, On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Jakob Hirsch wrote: > Funny thing is, just two days ago a message from Strato's outbound > relays was blocked on my mailserver because it connected to the second > MX without trying the first one before... For the reasons that Heiko and Graeme gave, I would strongl

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread W B Hacker
W B Hacker wrote: > Jakob Hirsch wrote: >> Dr. Tilo Levante, 2010-06-15 15:58: >> >>> we have the following log entry about the backup MX: >>> >>> 450 4.1.0 Don't use the Backup MX 'relay.rzone.de' while the Primary MX >>> is available - please send your mail to ... >>> >>> Does exim use the Backu

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread W B Hacker
Jakob Hirsch wrote: > Dr. Tilo Levante, 2010-06-15 15:58: > >> we have the following log entry about the backup MX: >> >> 450 4.1.0 Don't use the Backup MX 'relay.rzone.de' while the Primary MX >> is available - please send your mail to ... >> >> Does exim use the Backup MX if the primary MX is a

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Jakob Hirsch
Heiko Schlittermann, 2010-06-16 11:36: > But it's quite stupid by second mx, to think that my (network) > connectivity to the second mx is the same as to the first mx. This highly depends on the setup. I have only a single (private) mail server which has two IP addresses, so the connectivity, ava

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Jakob Hirsch
Dr. Tilo Levante, 2010-06-15 15:58: > we have the following log entry about the backup MX: > > 450 4.1.0 Don't use the Backup MX 'relay.rzone.de' while the Primary MX > is available - please send your mail to ... > > Does exim use the Backup MX if the primary MX is available? Can I > configure

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Graeme Fowler
Interesting discussion, this. For a given well-designed MX platform where the MX servers are physically separated and are on different networks with different upstream providers, there are myriad reasons why any two MX servers for a given domain might not be able to reach each other. That means th

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Chris Wilson
Hi Heiko, On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Heiko Schlittermann wrote: >>> Does exim use the Backup MX if the primary MX is available? Can I >>> configure exim to prefer the primary MX? >> >> Exim should try the primary first, as any MTA should. Sometimes it may >> fail to reach the primary, and fall back t

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
Chris Wilson (Mi 16 Jun 2010 09:53:41 CEST): > Hi Tilo, > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Dr. Tilo Levante wrote: > > > we have the following log entry about the backup MX: > > > > 450 4.1.0 Don't use the Backup MX 'relay.rzone.de' while the Primary MX > > is available - please send your mail to ... > >

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread W B Hacker
Dr. Tilo Levante wrote: > Hi, > > we have the following log entry about the backup MX: > > 450 4.1.0 Don't use the Backup MX 'relay.rzone.de' while the Primary MX > is available - please send your mail to ... > > Does exim use the Backup MX if the primary MX is available? Can I > configure ex

Re: [exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Chris Wilson
Hi Tilo, On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Dr. Tilo Levante wrote: > we have the following log entry about the backup MX: > > 450 4.1.0 Don't use the Backup MX 'relay.rzone.de' while the Primary MX > is available - please send your mail to ... > > Does exim use the Backup MX if the primary MX is available? C

[exim] Strange log entry about backup MX

2010-06-16 Thread Dr. Tilo Levante
Hi, we have the following log entry about the backup MX: 450 4.1.0 Don't use the Backup MX 'relay.rzone.de' while the Primary MX is available - please send your mail to ... Does exim use the Backup MX if the primary MX is available? Can I configure exim to prefer the primary MX? Thanks fo