On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 08:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> By closing individual mailman mailing lists and replacing it with a
> single forum, everything is under control of a single authority.
Rest assured that the mailing lists hosted on mail.gnome.org are
technically also "unde
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 09:48 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> I wrote:
> > There even isn't the need to moderate or ban users with unwanted
> > opinions, since the users are educated by levels, badges and
> > presents.
>
> That's neither logical nor based on a correct assumption. It's not
> about "ban
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 10:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> It isn't a code of conduct that those who joined the gift of Level 1,
> soon reach the maximum number of replies and need to wait a day before
> they can continue. The correct term is "despotism".
PS:
Andre, I'm really upset about your prev
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 10:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Andre, I'm really upset about your prevarication
Thanks for getting personal again (after "My claims make a lot of sense
and you are aware of it") instead of concentrating on arguments, no
matter how over the top (uhm, "Chinese rating system
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:36 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 10:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Andre, I'm really upset about your prevarication
>
> Thanks for getting personal again (after "My claims make a lot of sense
> and you are aware of it") instead of concentrating on
What other Gnome lists (analogous to evolution-list) are currently
scrambling with the abrupt decision to switch to discourse?
This will be helpful to know if one is trying to convince a major
organization to step up and host evolution and possibly brethren
too.
Thanks,
David
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 06:50 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:
> What other Gnome lists (analogous to evolution-list) are currently
> scrambling with the abrupt decision to switch to discourse?
>
> This will be helpful to know if one is trying to convince a major
> organization to step up and ho
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 06:50 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:
> What other Gnome lists (analogous to evolution-list) are currently
> scrambling with the abrupt decision to switch to discourse?
Hi,
all GNOME mailing lists are affected,
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo .
I don't know if
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 06:50 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:
> What other Gnome lists (analogous to evolution-list) are currently
> scrambling with the abrupt decision to switch to discourse?
>
The full list is at
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo
with archives here
https://mail
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> The PTB would all say that this is not abrupt.
^^^
Pass the bong :D
What is PTB for?
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Hi,
I'm a long time Evolution mailing list subscriber, who just recently
subscribed to the gimp and mc mailing list, since we all suffer from the
decision that the GNOME mailing lists get shut down this month.
Reading the MC archive I noticed the question regarding groups.io. If
it's free as in b
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:45 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > The PTB would all say that this is not abrupt.
> ^^^
> Pass the bong :D
>
> What is PTB for?
The "Powers That Be". Usually reserved for faceless people
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:13 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:45 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > The PTB would all say that this is not abrupt.
> > ^^^
> > Pass the bong :D
> >
> > What is
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:13 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
> The "Powers That Be". Usually reserved for faceless people who make
> decisions for what they perceive to be the best interests of other
> people.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_powers_that_be#:~:text=In%20idiomatic%20English%2C%20%2
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 09:20 -0400, William Oliver wrote:
> I strongly suspect that the reason this change is being made is not for
> some nefarious "control" reason or some bad goal. I suspect that its
> about making it easier for whoever is volunteering to keep this stuff
> going.
Hi,
if so, wh
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:13 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:45 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > The PTB would all say that this is not abrupt.
> > ^^^
> > Pass the bong :D
> >
> > What is
>
> I have worked with a number of professional organizations that are
> maintained primarily by volunteer staff and effort. The "powers that
> be" are usually people who are doing a lot of work for free -- even if
> the people at the very top are being paid a little. Sometimes that's
> because
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 16:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 09:20 -0400, William Oliver wrote:
>
>
...
> FreeBSD has a way better reason to discontinue Mailman, since it's
> more
> or less impossible to port Mailman 3 to a FreeBSD servers, hence they
> simpl
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc wrote:
> What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is
> unavailable? Is Lyris suitable? What features (technically speaking)
> must the platform possess?
Hi,
I can't answer those questions. However, Linux server can run Mailman 3
witho
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:
> What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is
> unavailable?
Just to reiterate and clarify, there is no "Mailman is unavailable"
situation. Mailman has versions that support Python2 and Python3, and
Python2
Hi,
it's worth to forward this [1] to other GNOME mailing lists.
Regards,
Ralf
[1]
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Subject: Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists
hosted by Gnome.org
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:19:21 -0400
On Sun, 2022-10-23
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 15:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > I have worked with a number of professional organizations that are
> > maintained primarily by volunteer staff and effort. The "powers
> > that
> > be" are usually people who are doing a lot of work for free -- even
> > if
> > the people at
Some Fedora lists has been moved to the Fedora Discourse however, and
some lists are still there, i think Matt knows more
On 10/23/22, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 15:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
>> > I have worked with a number of professional organizations that are
>> > mai
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 16:40 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 15:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > I have worked with a number of professional organizations that
> > > are
> > > maintained primarily by volunteer staff and effort. The "powers
> > > that
> > > be" are usually
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:19 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:
> > What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is
> > unavailable?
>
>
...
> I've offered to host, for Gnome, for free, everything
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 17:57 +0200, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:
> * groups.io - way too expensive for us
> * riseup.net - political organization
> * Google Groups - free, no positive / negative experience
> * Freedesktop - maybe they could accept a couple of low-traffic lists?
>
> If other lists find a
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:12 -0400, dfc wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:19 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:
> > > What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is
> > > unavailable?
> >
> >
>
Hello.
For those who are interested, see
https://groups.io/g/evolution-users
It is now, up to you to decide what you want to do.
..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..
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On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 6:51 PM Bret Busby wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> For those who are interested, see
> https://groups.io/g/evolution-users
>
> It is now, up to you to decide what you want to do.
>
> ..
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> (UTC+0800)
> ..
>
>
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Dnia 23.10.2022 o godz. 18:15:49 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze:
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 17:57 +0200, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:
> > * groups.io - way too expensive for us
> > * riseup.net - political organization
> > * Google Groups - free, no positive / negative experience
> > * Freedesktop -
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 00:51 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> For those who are interested, see
> https://groups.io/g/evolution-users
>
> It is now, up to you to decide what you want to do.
I have no problems with people signing up to whatever they want, of
course, but I have to say that I'm on one or t
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 00:51 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> https://groups.io/g/evolution-users
>
Thank you Bret,
I tied subscribing several times with silver.bullet at zoho.com by the
groups.io website and one time by email. Until now I didn't receive a
confirmation email. I checked the spam folder
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:16 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> I have no problems with people signing up to whatever they want, of
> course, but [snip]
Hi,
I can't comment on groups.io and I dislike the idea of an unofficial
mailing list. When Bret asked me off-list, if he should set up this list
for Evo
On 24/10/22 01:18, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 00:51 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
https://groups.io/g/evolution-users
Thank you Bret,
I tied subscribing several times with silver.bullet at zoho.com by the
groups.io website and one time by email. Until now I didn'
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 02:41 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> subscribing by replying to the invitation that I sent, appears to
> have worked
Yes!
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Set up new account. Lets see how it works (or not).
Cheers.
-Mensaje original-
De: Bret Busby
Para: evolution-list@gnome.org
Asunto: [Evolution] New mailing list
Fecha: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 00:51:04 +0800
Hello.
For those who are interested, seehttps://groups.io/g/evolution-users
It is now,
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 19:09 +0200, Luna Jernberg via evolution-list wrote:
> Signed up
Me too.
Brewster
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From: Grzegorz Szymaszek
To: m...@gnome.org
Cc: Ralf Mardorf , gimp-user-l...@gnome.org,
evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who
are affected by GNOME's ruling
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 19:01:11 +0200
Hi,
FW
I registered with the link in Bret's message and it worked. Thank
you.
IJ
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 02:41 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 24/10/22 01:18, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
> > On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 00:51 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> > > https://groups.io/g/evolution-users
> > >
> >
Evolution 3.40.4 (flatpak git04222ec)
Linux Mint: 5.4.0-126-generic #142-Ubuntu
DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.3
DISTRIB_CODENAME=una
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 20.3 Una
Updated flatpak today and now I'm getting the following:
Access blocked: Third-party app is using an unsupp
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 00:51 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> It is now, up to you to decide what you want to do.
Joined, if for no other reason than to stay in touch if the curtain
drops before some other (semi)permanent solution is in place.
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On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 15:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
> On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 13:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > So the way to get it working as a proper mailing list is by turning off
> > Mailing List Mode. So intuitive.
>
> Hi,
>
> yesno, even after doing so, it is
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 21:08 -0400, Ken Wright via evolution-list wrote:
> I Googled how to install the most recent Flatpak,
> and it appears to be working properly now.
Hi,
it would be still good to know what caused Evolution to freeze. I
understood from your description that the app is no
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