[Evolution] evolution processes never die

2015-09-08 Thread Joakim Tjernlund
If I exit evolution I get a few leftover processes: ps uaxwww| grep evolution jocke10108 0.1 0.3 1328424 38384 ? SLl 14:55 0:00 /usr/libexec/evolution-source-registry jocke10130 0.1 0.3 1059372 45888 ? Sl 14:56 0:00 /usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-alarm-notify jock

Re: [Evolution] evolution processes never die

2015-09-08 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:00 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > If I exit evolution I get a few leftover processes: > ps uaxwww| grep evolution > jocke10108 0.1 0.3 1328424 38384 ? SLl 14:55 0:00 > /usr/libexec/evolution-source-registry > jocke10130 0.1 0.3 1059372 45888 ?

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread John Lauterbach
I checked this recently using evolution 3.16.5 running under Ubutnu 15.10 beta. Used evolution backup routine (Backup EvolutionData). Saved backup file to spare partition on my SSD. Then copied the backup file to a 3 TB Toshiba USB drive. Moved drive over to another PC running same versions of

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Dennis Reichel
Thanks John, That's helpful information. My understanding of IMAP is that either the message header or header with message body may be downloaded. For a backup to be most useful, the message body should also be included. Cron or scheduled within Evolution, automatic data backups would be a gr

Re: [Evolution] evolution processes never die

2015-09-08 Thread Joakim Tjernlund
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 14:14 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:00 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > If I exit evolution I get a few leftover processes: > > ps uaxwww| grep evolution > > jocke10108 0.1 0.3 1328424 38384 ? SLl 14:55 0:00 > > /usr/libexec/evolution-so

Re: [Evolution] evolution processes never die

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 15:39 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 14:14 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:00 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > > If I exit evolution I get a few leftover processes: > > > ps uaxwww| grep evolution > > > jocke10108 0.1 0.3 1

Re: [Evolution] evolution processes never die

2015-09-08 Thread Joakim Tjernlund
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 16:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 15:39 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 14:14 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:00 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > > > If I exit evolution I get a few leftover proce

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:10 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote: > It would be a nice addition to evolution to be able to schedule > backups at a > certain time each day. I use SpiderOak for offsite backup. If I > could have > evolution do this automatically, I would never lose more than a day's > e-ma

Re: [Evolution] evolution processes never die

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 15:52 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > That would depend on how your package manager handles the upgrade. > To > > be safe, run "evolution --force-shutdown" and restart Evo after > > upgrading. > > Ahh, that option would be nice to have in Evo's File menu, next to > Quit F

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Zan Lynx
On 09/08/2015 09:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > As has been said repeatedly, the "backup" command in Evo is not > intended for periodic backups but for when you need to move your Evo > installation to another machine. If the Evolution developers are reading this I'd like to point out (again)

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Pete Biggs
> > If the Evolution developers are reading this I'd like to point out > (again) that expecting people to remember and use an obscure, > application-specific backup feature is unrealistic. I hardly think that a menu item labelled "Backup Evolution Data ..." under "File" is obscure, nor is it nec

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread John Lauterbach
Hello Patrick: Not all of us are on servers. Also, my laptop (where mail evo with my business -related e-mail) is on 24/7 except when going through airport security, etc. The same for my two desktops. I cannot afford to loose what I have on the evo on my laptop. Yes, one of my business e-mail

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:17 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > > As has been said repeatedly, the "backup" command in Evo is not > > intended for periodic backups but for when you need to move your > Evo > > installation to another machine. > > If the Evolution developers are reading this I'd like to point

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:28 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote: > Not all of us are on servers. Not clear whether you're referring to the mail system or the backup system, If it's the former, then of course we are all on servers but not all of them are IMAP, however my point was specifically in relation