Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-28 Thread Andre Wyrwa
On 26/05/2009 1:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: >>> Good point. What I should have said is that IMHO Evo is not going to >>> implement a special Skype button. What is more conceivable, if there >>> were sufficient demand, is a general-purpos

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-28 Thread Andre Wyrwa
>> 2) Whom do I pay for service that allows me to call ordinary phones, and 3) how much does it cost? > > Your telephony service provider. I don't know which TSP you're using, > so I cannot tell you what their name is. I've never heard of a normal > TSP that still doesn't support standard voip.

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-26 Thread Pete Biggs
And there was me thinking this was an Evolution list > I'm saddened by the responses in this thread. It seems Skype users > aren't all that interested in freedom of communication. If people > really _want_ to walk into the honey trap with their eyes wide open, I > guess there's little one c

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-26 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
The thread started with a suggestion to add a "Call using Skype"-button. Well, it's fairly easy, using Skype API. It will not be implemented as a feature for Evolution, I can tell you that. But it is possible to write a plugin for it. I'm saddened by the responses in this thread. It seems Skype us

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Simon Roberts, Mon, 25 May 2009 14:57:24 -0700: > 2) Whom do I pay for service that allows me to call ordinary phones, and Whomever ... there are different SIP providers in almost every country in the world. And of course you can install Asterisk (http:// www.asterisk.org/; http://twit.tv/floss38

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Jo-Erlend Schinstad, Mon, 25 May 2009 12:05:56 +0200: > I don't understand why anyone would want to use Skype. Because you have friends using it ... the same reason why people still use legacy IM protocols like MSN, ICQ, AIM, or IRC instead of Jabber. Matěj P.S.: I am banned by my employer of u

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Alpár Jüttner
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 12:05 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > 2009/5/24 Bruno Trazzini : > > > > I suggest adding a button to dial from the contact list using skype > > Skype, of all things. Why would you want a button for a play-phone > service, when you can get _real_ voip with Ekiga, which is

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:36 +1000, Nick Jenkins wrote: > Of course, for people who have a choice, VoIP is cheaper, more widely > available, works better on mobile phones than Skype (at least for me), > and has a competition from a wide variety of providers (e.g. there's a > very good list of VoIP p

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Nick Jenkins
> > 4) Can I call other skype users from Ekiga > > No, as I've said before, Skype prevents that. ... And that's the real issue for end-users. If you like free software, BUT most of your friends or customers don't care and are using Skype, then most people just install skype and chat to them usin

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 01:06 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > 2009/5/25 Simon Roberts : > > Thanks for the enthusiastic and detailed reply. That answers the first > > question, but not the second, third, and fourth: > > You're welcome. > > > 2) Whom do I pay for service that allows me to call

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Andre Wyrwa
Hi, On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:00 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free software. Yeah, like Exchange or GroupWise? Good point. What I should have said is that IMHO Evo is not going to implement a special Skype button. What is more c

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Nick Jenkins
> I suggest adding a button to dial from the contact list using skype Good idea, could maybe be generalised a bit though. Suggest logging a bug in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ , requesting a "dial/chat" button next to each non-blank phone number / instant chat field, which dials the number / initiat

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2009/5/25 Simon Roberts : > Thanks for the enthusiastic and detailed reply. That answers the first > question, but not the second, third, and fourth: You're welcome. > 2) Whom do I pay for service that allows me to call ordinary phones, and 3) > how much does it cost? Your telephony service pr

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Art Alexion
May 25 10:27:33 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] using skype On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:00 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free > > software. > > Yeah, like Exchange or GroupWise? Good point. What I should have said i

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Art Alexion
Touche -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: Patrick O'Callaghan Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Mon May 25 10:00:20 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] using skype > Ther

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Roberts
- Original Message > From: Jo-Erlend Schinstad > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:46:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Evolution] using skype > > 2009/5/25 Simon Roberts : > > Can I dial ordinary phones using Ekiga? What does it cost, and who

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2009/5/25 Simon Roberts : > Can I dial ordinary phones using Ekiga? What does it cost, and whom do I pay? > Does Ekiga connect to skype users (most of my contacts are already there and > won't be moving). Yes, Ekiga uses real voip protocols, used by all normal telephony service providers in all

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Roberts
- Original Message > From: David L ... > > Skype, of all things. Why would you want a button for a play-phone > > service, when you can get _real_ voip with Ekiga, which is free and > > like Evolution, part of GNOME? Can I dial ordinary phones using Ekiga? What does it cost, and whom

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread David L
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > 2009/5/24 Bruno Trazzini : >> >> I suggest adding a button to dial from the contact list using skype > > Skype, of all things. Why would you want a button for a play-phone > service, when you can get _real_ voip with Ekiga, which is fre

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2009/5/25 Brian J. Murrell : > On a more serious note, yes there is Ekiga, but what does that > (successfully) interop with for your Windows (or OSX for that matter) > buddies? A couple of hundred VoIP clients or so. Check wikipedias list of clients. Ekiga supports SIP and H.323, which are the mos

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Nicolas Michel
Conclusion : use something else than skype ^^ (but the "phone this contact" button seems a good idea to me) nm Le lundi 25 mai 2009 à 10:32 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > Good point. What I should have said is that IMHO E

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > Good point. What I should have said is that IMHO Evo is not going to > > implement a special Skype button. What is more conceivable, if there > > were sufficient demand, is a general-purpose "Phone this contact" > > button, which the use

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Good point. What I should have said is that IMHO Evo is not going to > implement a special Skype button. What is more conceivable, if there > were sufficient demand, is a general-purpose "Phone this contact" > button, which the user could set up to use whatever VOIP app he > preferred. I've n

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:00 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free > > software. > > Yeah, like Exchange or GroupWise? Good point. What I should have said is that IMHO Evo is not going to implement a special Skype button. What is mo

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:00 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free > > software. > > Yeah, like Exchange or GroupWise? LOL. Very nicely done! b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free > software. Yeah, like Exchange or GroupWise? --tml ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:28 -0300, Bruno Trazzini wrote: > I suggest adding a button to dial from the contact list using skype There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free software. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolutio

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 12:05 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > > Skype, of all things. Why would you want a button for a play-phone > service, when you can get _real_ voip with Ekiga, which is free and > like Evolution, part of GNOME? Well, duh. Obviously it's because Oprah uses Skype. Get with

Re: [Evolution] using skype

2009-05-25 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2009/5/24 Bruno Trazzini : > > I suggest adding a button to dial from the contact list using skype Skype, of all things. Why would you want a button for a play-phone service, when you can get _real_ voip with Ekiga, which is free and like Evolution, part of GNOME? I don't understand why anyone wo

[Evolution] using skype

2009-05-24 Thread Bruno Trazzini
I suggest adding a button to dial from the contact list using skype ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list