Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-22 Thread Contacto
Hi Pete, Yes, I know that if I'm the only one reporting this it's surely a client/user misconfiguration. That's what I wanted to know before opening a bug. But you cannot blame ubuntu or any other distribution for this. The only reason that may affect performance in my setup is a lot of sma

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-22 Thread Contacto
Thank you Matthew. This aleviated a little bit the situation. But not much. I still see something wrong. I have to investigate where the problems come from... One known issue, especially for heavy users, is that fragmentation can build up in the mail summary database over time, which does n

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 17:14 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > I think you can tell when people are extremely happy because they join > this list to lurk and find new interesting things. When they are even > happier or just know enough then they start helping people. > > > Also "Friends argu

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)   I think you can tell when people are extremely happy because they join this list to lurk and find new interesting things.  When they are even happier or just know enough then they start helping people.   Also "Friends argue.  Enemies don't care".  There might be 1 or 2 things that reall

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 17.05.2013, 06:08 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: > On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 11:13 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > > ^^ galore users wouldn't like gnome3 ??? > > Or not, 'the Internet' has a powerful negative bias. The unhappy are > far more motivated to pos

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 11:13 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > ^^ galore users wouldn't like gnome3 ??? Or not, 'the Internet' has a powerful negative bias. The unhappy are far more motivated to post than the happy. I find lots of very happy users - but they aren't going to po

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 17.05.2013, 09:29 +0100 schrieb Pete Biggs: > > > > > > To be honest most of the grouching about the stability and speed of Evo > > > seems to be coming from Ubuntu users > > > > Or people with *unbelievably* ancient versions. Every time I see > > someone complaining about 2.32

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > To be honest most of the grouching about the stability and speed of Evo > > seems to be coming from Ubuntu users > > Or people with *unbelievably* ancient versions. Every time I see > someone complaining about 2.32 or even 2.28... my jaw drops. I just > don't get it - why do that to you

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-16 Thread George Reeke
> Am Montag, den 13.05.2013, 08:30 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: trimmed > > Or people with *unbelievably* ancient versions. Every time I see > > someone complaining about 2.32 or even 2.28... my jaw drops. I just > > don't get it - why do that to yourself? > > 'coz it runs and does al

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-16 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 13.05.2013, 08:30 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: > On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 10:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem > > > that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they > > > didn't see

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 13:54 -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 2013/5/13 8:30 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > Yes. 3.6.x is a major release back. 3.8.x *does* fix some performance > > issues, especially related to flaky connections. Or it certainly seems > > that way to me. > I'm new to Linux, A

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/5/13 8:30 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 10:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they didn't see any problem. Because one person report

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 14:31 +0200, Contacto wrote: > But performance problems right now are a serious issue. > > If this were my product I will start profiling it. Just to see how > fast/slow is and how can we improve. > > I can say that I'm heavy user. I used to have thousands of e-mails in 6

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 10:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem > > that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they > > didn't see any problem. > Because one person reporting problems is not usually credible

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Pete Biggs
> > But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem > that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they > didn't see any problem. Because one person reporting problems is not usually credible - it's indicative of a misconfiguration or an issue else

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Contacto
El 09/05/13 02:31, N B Day escribió: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I was a high evangelist of evolution but right now it has not the quality it used to have. Please add "in Ubuntu" to your statements as

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-09 Thread Bart Hollis
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:58 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > > Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with > > > ubuntu 13.04). Sent a p

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 17:31 -0700, N B Day wrote: > Evolution is no longer the default MUA in Ubuntu, but it still > integrates nicely with their version of the Gnome calendar. Works very > well for me and my extended family. Evolution 3.8 also supports Ubuntu Online Accounts, written by yours tr

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread N B Day
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > > > I was a high evangelist of evolution but right now it has not the > > quality it used to have. > > Please add "in Ubuntu" to your statements as you chose to use a >

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with > > ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of bug reports with launchpad but I cannot > > continue use the pr

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with > ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of bug reports with launchpad but I cannot > continue use the program with this high degree of problems. > > I was a high evang

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
Hello, Yes, I warned about this and disk problems some time ago. Now it's time to switch. Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of bug reports with launchpad but I cannot continue use the program with this high degree of problems.

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 09.04.2013, 18:00 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:34 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > > Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > > > I'm experiencing a

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:34 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I > > > think that since int

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:34 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I > > > think that since int

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I > > think that since introduction of sql backend. > > You might try this: > > 1) Sto

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 05.04.2013, 06:03 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: > On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 11:57 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 27.03.2013, 00:54 +0100 schrieb Thomas Prost: > > > Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: > > > (...) > > > > Widgets from

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-05 Thread Pete Biggs
> Even in 'managed' code [Java, .NET, etc...] it involves sifting through > a lot of data; first you have to see the leak, and *then* you have to > figure out what code is to blame. And asking yourself 'why didn't I > just become a bar tender?' Because after a few nights of dealing with drunk pu

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-05 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 11:57 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 27.03.2013, 00:54 +0100 schrieb Thomas Prost: > > Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: > > (...) > > > Widgets from closed composer windows were sticking around in memory and > > Is there an easy

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-05 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Mittwoch, den 27.03.2013, 00:54 +0100 schrieb Thomas Prost: > Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: > (...) > > > > Widgets from closed composer windows were sticking around in memory and > Is there an easy way to check that ^^ ? obvi

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-26 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: (...) > > Widgets from closed composer windows were sticking around in memory and Is there an easy way to check that ^^ ? > responding to events, which eats up CPU. So the more composer windows > you

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-13 Thread Lailah
El mar, 12-03-2013 a las 06:06 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams escribió: > On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:54 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > > I wonder how to start debugging here. Maybe strace to see what your > > > computer is doing? Have you checked forums and bugtrackers of your > > > distribu

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:54 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > I wonder how to start debugging here. Maybe strace to see what your > > computer is doing? Have you checked forums and bugtrackers of your > > distribution if other users face the same problem? > I've checked some lists, googling

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
Hi Adam, It seems it's working nice for you. I don't understand what really happens. I will try to do some investigation. It would be nice to run under a tracer so I can see where the time is lost... Thank you. El lun, 11-03-2013 a las 15:48 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams escribió: > On Mon,

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
Hello, I did this. It seems to start faster, but maybe due to cache so I can't tell if it did any good. I'm going to test it today and let you know. At least it's good to do a nice vacuum from time to time... E l lun, 11-03-2013 a las 15:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan escribió:> I'm experienc

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
El lun, 11-03-2013 a las 20:57 +0100, Andre Klapper escribió: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. > > Evo version is 3.6.2. > > 3.6.2 is not latest Evolution. You might want to ask

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 16:55 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > I believe the bulk of the leakage was fixed in GtkHTML 4.6.3. Hi, it's about this one [1], GtkHTML 4.6.3+ and evo/eds 3.6.4+. Sadly, it's not enough. The composer does some crazy stuff in the background when there are more (sendin

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > The problem is that I have to wait for a new mail window about 16 > secs, or more. It constantly hangs or crashes and the interface is > little responsive. This may be related to a massive widget leak that Milan discovered in th

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:57 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > Assuming that you meant the "sqlite backend", you have a pretty good > memory as you can remember that 5 years ago, Evolution was way more > performant than the last 4 1/2 years. > I just don't understand why you bring it up now and not earl

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. > Evo version is 3.6.2. 3.6.2 is not latest Evolution. You might want to ask your distribution to ship the latest bugfix version for you. > I think that si

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 15:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I > > think that since introduction of sql backend. > You might try this: > 1) Stop Evo complet

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > Hello, > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I > think that since introduction of sql backend. > The problem is that I have to wait for a new mail window about 16 > secs, or more. It constantly h

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I > think that since introduction of sql backend. You might try this: 1) Stop Evo completely ("evolution --force-shutdown") 2) Vacuum the SQL database:

[Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
Hello, I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I think that since introduction of sql backend. The problem is that I have to wait for a new mail window about 16 secs, or more. It constantly hangs or crashes and the interface is little responsive. Evo version is 3