Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:19 +, David Woodhouse wrote: > Next daft newbie-user question... how do I make that the default for > *all* folders instead of having to change them one by one? Hi, the more general approach is not that obvious, which is a pita. Instead of saving your view as

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 13:20 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > It would be interesting to know what the > "next-message" code uses for ordering. > Hi, it uses the tree, basically what you see in UI, positioning based on the selected row index. There is some influence of collapsed threads, usual

[Evolution] Ubuntu, Bogofilter, Spamassasin

2015-03-19 Thread Tim Wescott
Spamassassin seems to not work at all for me, as of about a month ago. All it does is consume lots of CPU time when I mark mail as junk, but it's not finding spam on its own. I'd prefer Bogofilter (it just seemed to work better in Ubuntu 12), but I've never been able to get it to work with Evoluti

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 18:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > I don't know about that, but you can save a custom view (including sort > order) by setting the folder how you want and then doing View -> Current > View -> Save view. Then it's reasonably trivial to set the correct > view of a folder when yo

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 18:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > Next daft newbie-user question... how do I make that the default > > for > > *all* folders instead of having to change them one by one? > > I don't know about that, but you can save a custom view (including > sort order) by setting t

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 18:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Next daft newbie-user question... how do I make that the default > for > > *all* folders instead of having to change them one by one? > > I don't know about that, but you can save a custom view (including > sort > order) by setting the fold

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 13:20 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > I don't have a custom sort order, and I also see the saner > behaviour > > you describe, Patrick. If I delete a message, focus moves to the > next > > message below it in the display. Not the next newer message in the > > mailbix which may

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:11 +, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:08 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > > > My main issue with the sorting, FWIW, is the fact that we sort > > > > on the Date: header and not the time th

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Next daft newbie-user question... how do I make that the default for > *all* folders instead of having to change them one by one? I don't know about that, but you can save a custom view (including sort order) by setting the folder how you want and then doing View -> Current View -> Save vie

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 16:56 +, David Woodhouse wrote: > I don't have a custom sort order, and I also see the saner behaviour > you describe, Patrick. If I delete a message, focus moves to the next > message below it in the display. Not the next newer message in the > mailbix which may be els

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:08 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > My main issue with the sorting, FWIW, is the fact that we sort > > > on the Date: header and not the time the message was actually > > > *delivered*. So when we get a misdate

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:08 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > My main issue with the sorting, FWIW, is the fact that we sort > > > on the Date: header and not the time the message was actually > > > *delivered*. So when we get a misdate

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 17:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > My main issue with the sorting, FWIW, is the fact that we sort on the > > Date: header and not the time the message was actually *delivered*. So > > when we get a misdated mail from the future, it sits as the "newest" > > message in t

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Pete Biggs
> > My main issue with the sorting, FWIW, is the fact that we sort on the > Date: header and not the time the message was actually *delivered*. So > when we get a misdated mail from the future, it sits as the "newest" > message in the mailbox until the world finally catches up with it. Or > w

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 16:44 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 08:21 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > > I have folders ordered by Received (Descending, i.e. the oldest > > thread > > > first) and this problem doesn't happen to me. I suspect the > > > problem has to do with wanti

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 08:21 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > I have folders ordered by Received (Descending, i.e. the oldest > thread > > first) and this problem doesn't happen to me. I suspect the problem > > has to do with wanting the most recent thread (i.e. the thread with > > the most recent messa

Re: [Evolution] Left-click in text field grabs window to move

2015-03-19 Thread Emilio Recio
It seems to happen on many applications that rely on GTK. Thunderbird does it from the tab bar, firefox doesn't do it anymore. It's especially annoying in Eclipse (I have an expanded window, go and click on a toolbar button, if I miss and click the blank part of the menu bar, it picks the window up

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 11:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's never been completely clear to me what these ordering really mean > when combined with threading. I'm not so worried about the order in which different threads are displayed. But within a single thread it seems to me that whatev

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance with "next message" order

2015-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2015-03-18 at 15:00 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Hi all. This has bugged me for years but never enough to complain about > it (until now, I guess :)). I wonder if it's just me, or just my setup, > or what. I'm currently using Evolution 3.12.10 but I've seen this for a > number of releases