Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 10:14 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > An obvious solution to this is to do what Kmail does. When the message > being replied to contains a List-Post header, Ctrl-R should do the same > as Ctrl-L. There should also be a Reply-To-Author command for the rare > case when the r

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
I like your picture, I think that way is fine to me. Sylvia El jue, 15-07-2010 a las 16:57 +0100, David Woodhouse escribió: > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 11:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 16:09 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 18:42 -0430, Pa

Re: [Evolution] Cannot Create New or Delete Existing Categories

2010-07-15 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
It happens to me too. I think is a bug. Actually, the category is created but not showed. Try to create another category with the same name and the program will "It's already created". If you type in the box above, your created categories appear. Also appears in calendar view. If nobody know

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 21:28 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Remember, the existing reply-to-list operation *already* falls back > > to replying to all if it can't find a List-Post: header. > > No it doesn't. The operation *does*. You're getting confused by the fact that the current menu items get

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 20:54 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > My understanding *was* that those people who wanted reply-to-list > would > want to use it for *all* lists. Remember, the existing reply-to-list > operation *already* falls back to replying to all if it can't find a > List-Post: header. N

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > Also I need a reply all for list messages when I get a CC: copy without > > the list headers in the message. > > When you get a Cc copy without the list headers in the message, that > *isn't* a list message in any meaningful sense of the term -- it's a > direct message. Yes, I understand

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 18:22 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > because even though your normal > > preference is to reply-to-list on list messages, you might *sometimes* > > want to reply-to-all on a list message instead? > > No, I need to reply all for normal messages - life isn't just about > lists :

[Evolution] Cannot Create New or Delete Existing Categories

2010-07-15 Thread Arthur Machlas
Greetings, Using Evolution 2.30.2 on Debian Squeeze I attempt to create a new category, assign an icon and create, however, the new category is not created. Similarly, when I delete the default categories I do not want, e.g,. VIP, say ok then close. When I next reopen the categories all those I d

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > > But Reply-to-All is useful, I don't want it to become a Reply-in-Public. > > And the term Public is horrible - many of the lists I am on are private > > lists, the reply is most definitely not public and it will just confuse > > people. > > Remember, we're *only* talking about the toolba

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 11:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 16:09 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 18:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > And there are probably an equal number who believe the contrary, like > > > me, but let's not argue about

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 16:09 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 18:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > And there are probably an equal number who believe the contrary, like > > me, but let's not argue about it. I think Paul's suggestion that the > > default behaviour for "Rep

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 12:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 10:14 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Note: this is a comment on Evo itself, rather than the Evo list. > > > > As someone who posts quite a lot on this list, I'm forever having to > > deal with people reply

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 13:00 +1000, Nick Jenkins wrote: > > > OK, let's summarize (RT = Reply-To address, LP = List-Post > address, > > > SA = Sender or From Address, CC = CC addresses): > > > > This all far too complicated. > > Agreed. If it's a user-facing change that too complicated to > unders

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 13:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > And it's *already* simple for the user to choose if they're using the > > keyboard shortcuts or the menu; it's only the toolbar that really needs > > attention, as you say. > > Fine. So what's the point of all this discussion then? Ju

[Evolution] POP storage in evolution

2010-07-15 Thread vijay singh
Hello, I can see evolution store complete POP data base under local provider storage. Why this way it is implemented ?? Why don't he can use default directory of POP storage. (Created by evolution during account connection). Note : By default storage, i mean folder created by evolution @/home.evo

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Pete Biggs
> > And it's *already* simple for the user to choose if they're using the > keyboard shortcuts or the menu; it's only the toolbar that really needs > attention, as you say. Fine. So what's the point of all this discussion then? Just change the toolbar. > > And despite the fact that I persona

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 09:15 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Let's not argue about that too much -- we won't make any progress. Let's > > just recognise that this 'DTRT' thing that you suggest is hard when we > > can't agree on what TRT is. > > Yes, but all your solutions seem to implement it the way

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Pete Biggs
> > My current inclination is to head down the KISS route - just put a > Reply-to-list button on the toolbar that might possibly be greyed out if > there is no list info. That seems to be simple, quick and easy to > implement - it's just a patch to an XML file. > In fact I've just done it:

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 11:57 +0200, Kåre Fiedler Christiansen wrote: > First: Apologies, Pete, I accidentally replied off-list. Honestly, I > didn't mean to. I just clicked the wrong reply button (the one I used > the most). :-) > > > > I would be strongly against any implementation that automat

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Kåre Fiedler Christiansen
First: Apologies, Pete, I accidentally replied off-list. Honestly, I didn't mean to. I just clicked the wrong reply button (the one I used the most). On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 09:15 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Let's not argue about that too much -- we won't make any progress. Let's > > just recogn

Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list

2010-07-15 Thread Pete Biggs
> > The problem with that suggestion is that there are people (including > myself) who firmly believe that the "right" thing to do with a list > message is to *include* the original sender when replying, unless you're > sure they don't want you to. And I very firmly believe that CC'ing someone w