Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 9:51 AM Russell Standish wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:25:57AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 8:49 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 11:38:52AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > > > Many worlds theory

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:25:57AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 8:49 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 11:38:52AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > Many worlds theory does not have any comparable way of relating > probabilities >

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 9:25 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 8:49 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 11:38:52AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> > >> > Many worlds theory does not have any comparable way of relating >> probabilities >> > to the properties o

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:52 AM Russell Standish wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:06:12AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 9:51 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:25:57AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 8:4

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 1:47 PM Russell Standish wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 11:35:11AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:52 AM Russell Standish > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:25:57AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > On Mon,

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 2:10 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 5:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On 2/9/2025 6:37 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 6:06 PM Brent Meeker wrote: />>>Thus arbitrarily imposing a frequentist model on the world by imagining an ensemble of universes. / *>> Hugh Everett wasn't imagining, he was just taking seriously a predi

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 11:38:52AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > Many worlds theory does not have any comparable way of relating probabilities > to the properties of the wave function. In fact, if all possibilities are > realized on every trial, the majority of observers will get results that >

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 02:14:07PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 1:47 PM Russell Standish > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 11:35:11AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:52 AM Russell Standish > > > wrote: > > > >     >

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 2:41 PM Russell Standish wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 02:14:07PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 1:47 PM Russell Standish > wrote: > > > > > > If you do the construction, all 2^N > > branches arise in the same way, so they have the same weight.

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:06:12AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 9:51 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:25:57AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 8:49 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > > >     On Thu, Feb

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 11:35:11AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:52 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:06:12AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 9:51 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > > >     On Mon, Feb

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 8:49 AM Russell Standish wrote: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 11:38:52AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > Many worlds theory does not have any comparable way of relating > probabilities > > to the properties of the wave function. In fact, if all possibilities are > > realiz

Re: Clark on the singularity at T=0

On 2/8/2025 11:04 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:26:33 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/8/2025 12:47 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: I can't recall on which thread I made the argument, and Clark agreed, that if the universe has a finite age, it cannot be

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 6:06 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > *>>>Thus arbitrarily imposing a frequentist model on the world by >> imagining an ensemble of universes. * >> > > *>> Hugh Everett wasn't imagining, he was just taking seriously a > prediction that Schrodinger's Equation makes; * > > *> Which i

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Ala

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Ala

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 5:01 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *>> Hugh Everett wasn't imagining, he was just taking seriously a >> prediction that Schrodinger's Equation makes; it's true that particular >> prediction can't be tested, but many other predictions that the equation >> makes can be and they've

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 5:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7

Re: Why even physicists still don’t understand quantum theory 100 years on

On Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 7:38:18 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 6:06 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *>>>Thus arbitrarily imposing a frequentist model on the world by imagining an ensemble of universes. * *>> Hugh Everett wasn't imagining, he was just taking seriously a pre