Re: [EVDL] EV school buses

2022-10-29 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Lee Hart via EV wrote: That's $400,000 per bus! ... You're not going to get many schools to adopt them at that price. Maybe some high school shop class should take on the challenge of converting one? Wouldn't that be great? Healthy for both the schools' budgets an

Re: [EVDL] EV school buses

2022-10-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Lee, what you say seems possible, to me. I think the test would be to inquire to some insurance companies. After all, that's where the liability ends up. So, if they can be convinced the liability is essentially no higher with an ebus vs the old bus, the project could be feasible. On the othe

[EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

2022-10-29 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
A 2035 ban was agreed on in principle in June but with some resistance. As of Friday they seem to have mostly worked things out. The upshot is that vehicles have to show 50-55% carbon reduction by 2030 and zero carbon by 2035, with boutique / luxury automakers given only an extra year. It's

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

2022-10-29 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
It may not matter.  EV's are hitting the exponential growth curve, and ICE vehicles are hitting the reverse exponential curve. EV's will continue to get less expensive as volume production increases, and new lower-end models come out. ICE vehicle manufacturers are already making very slim profits

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

2022-10-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think the push helps. Yes, the momentum is there and the pace is accelerating. But we still can't make an affordable battery that can charge rapidly, uses readily available raw materials, and is compact and light. The push will indirectly put more pressure on R&D: whoever comes up with the be

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

2022-10-29 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 29 Oct 2022 at 20:57, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > There's been a move back to LiFePo because it doesn't use cobalt. What > else can be done ? Nickel metal hydride? NiMH has significantly lower specific energy than lithium, but reliability and cycle life are outstanding and well proven.