To be clear: Tesla's with "one pedal" mode (called "hold") uses regen
until low speeds where it's not enough, then uses the iBooster to apply
hydraulic brakes. It fades in the hydraulic almost perfectly, and holds
the brakes firmly on even with no feet touching pedals until you press the
acceler
Good point. The "Gizmo" EV steering was 2 levers on the floor, I guess
like some trikes.
I remember the quote from the Tanenbaum book"The great thing about
standards is there are just so many to choose from."..
On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:59:43 PM PST, Lee Hart via EV
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On 13 Jan 2024 at 17:19, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
> Let's not assume Tesla's sales success is because it has an unequivocally
> better EV product today.
>
> What it does have is:
>
> -a reliable, easy to use, rapidly growing, DCFC network
True in the US, but not in Europe. For years, Tesla s
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 20:56 Rush via EV wrote:
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: EV On Behalf Of Haudy Kazemi via EV
> > Single pedal cannot give you maximum stopping force, unless it is
> configured
> to
> > apply max force upon release. That doesn't seem like a good idea for a
> -Original Message-
> From: EV On Behalf Of Haudy Kazemi via EV
> Single pedal cannot give you maximum stopping force, unless it is configured
to
> apply max force upon release. That doesn't seem like a good idea for a smooth
> driving experience. I don't see the brake pedal disappe
Anyone who has driven a Ford model T can certainly attest to the challenges of
having all the controls in the "wrong" locations. (OK, the steering wheel is
the same as modern cars; but nothing else).
The early EVs also had considerably different controls. How about tiller
steering? :-)
The til
You're right, Larry, I should be charging big money for these flashes
of brilliance!
Lawrence Winiarski wrote:
Stopgiving...them...ideas
On Saturday, January 13, 2024, 9:39:14 AM PST, Mr. Sharkey via EV
wrote:
Making vehicles with intuitive control layout is a safety feature.
Mayb
Stopgiving...them...ideas
On Saturday, January 13, 2024, 9:39:14 AM PST, Mr. Sharkey via EV
wrote:
Making vehicles with intuitive control layout is a safety feature.
Maybe Tesla will switch the brake and accelerator pedals just to be "unique"?
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On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 17:27 John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
> On 1/13/2024 3:19 PM, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
> > Single pedal cannot give you maximum stopping force, unless it is
> > configured to apply max force upon release. That doesn't seem like a good
> > idea for a smooth driving experience.
On 1/13/2024 3:19 PM, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
Single pedal cannot give you maximum stopping force, unless it is
configured to apply max force upon release. That doesn't seem like a good
idea for a smooth driving experience. I don't see the brake pedal
disappearing.
Single pedal can give max
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 16:03 Willie via EV wrote:
>
> On 1/13/24 11:38, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> > > all the buttons, stalks, switches, etc that mimic
> > > obsolete cars and satisfies those with such fetishes.
> >
> > Exactly how is having commonly used controls that are needed for the
> > saf
On 1/13/24 11:38, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> all the buttons, stalks, switches, etc that mimic
> obsolete cars and satisfies those with such fetishes.
Exactly how is having commonly used controls that are needed for the
safe operation of a vehicle right out in plain sight and easily
adjusted
> On Jan 13, 2024, at 9:38 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
>
> Sure, put the setup and deep adjustments behind a screen, but if I want to
> control the heater, radio (I know, obsolete...) or wipers, let me just reach
> for the hardware control and continue to concentrate on driving (I know, als
> all the buttons, stalks, switches, etc that mimic
> obsolete cars and satisfies those with such fetishes.
Exactly how is having commonly used controls that are needed for the
safe operation of a vehicle right out in plain sight and easily
adjusted without requiring the driver to take eyes off
> On 1/12/2024 8:25 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
> > That's been working surprisingly well for him, but that was before the
> > unfolding "Cybertruck" disaster. That hideous, awkward, grossly
> > inefficient lump belongs in a dystopian SF film, not on the road. If
> > he stubbornly carries on
Meh...It's too small of a sample and far too early to say whether "The Market"
has decided. The good news is EV's in general are doing prettywell and
obviously we have a pretty diverse range of strong opinions on user interfaces.
I think it's perfectly fair to disagree on what is obvious
On 1/12/24 22:25, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
Tesla moved controls to a touchscreen not because anyone asked for them
there, but because Elon Musk himself, stuck in his adolescent science
fiction world, wanted them there.
You might explain your reasoning behind that rather illogical comment.
On 1/12/2024 8:25 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
That's been working surprisingly well for him, but that was before the
unfolding "Cybertruck" disaster. That hideous, awkward, grossly inefficient
lump belongs in a dystopian SF film, not on the road. If he stubbornly
carries on with it, it will
On 12 Jan 2024 at 10:29, Rush via EV wrote:
> I've heard lots of whining about how difficult change is but this thread
> takes the cake
VW is returning to real physical controls - at least simulated ones -
because all over the world their customers have told VW that they despise
touchscreens.
List
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>> Reuters
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>> I rented a Herz Tesla M3 in Washington state last year. I'm an EV driver but
>> have
>
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Geez.
Peri
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27;s going to do ya. ??
Rush
Tucson AZ
> -Original Message-
> From: EV On Behalf Of Ed Thorpe via EV
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2024 9:17 AM
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> Cc: etcad...@gmail.com; EV List Lackey
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Rental giant Hertz dump
I rented a Herz Tesla M3 in Washington state last year. I’m an EV driver but
have never owned a Tesla and it took some time to learn how to turn on the fan,
etc. But some of that was my fault because before my rental date Herz provided
a link to a detailed FAQ doc on how to use the Tesla feature
On 12 Jan 2024 at 9:07, Mark E. Hanson via EV wrote:
> The real reason is you *can't* drive it for two hours until after training.
That's interesting, and might be another reason that Hertz sees more
accidents with Teslas than with other cars. It's hard to drive defensively
when you're trying
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