Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-04-02 Thread Paul Compton via EV
On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 at 23:29, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > The voltage on a lead-acid battery goes _up_ in cold weather, by the way. A temperature compensated charger will use a higher charge voltage in cold weather. The open circuit voltage goes down with temperature, Lead Acid typically has a th

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 3/28/22 10:23, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I've got another data point to add to these observations. I still have the original battery in my 2011 leaf. I'm thinking I'd better swap it out before I get stalled somewhere... Anyway, one thing that might be different from others' experiences

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-28 Thread Willie via EV
Another factor is, as I recall, the timid Leaf regen.  "One pedal driving" is much more difficult than with an EV with aggressive regen.  I found I was asking myself "Why are there brake complaints?" .  Then, I realized that friction braking may create a 12v load while regen likely does not.

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ot; To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Jay Summet" Sent: 28-Mar-22 07:08:36 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall This is one of the reasons that Leaf's (at least that era...they may have made improvements on later models) chew through 12v access

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
This is one of the reasons that Leaf's (at least that era...they may have made improvements on later models) chew through 12v accessory batteries. They only rarely take them up to 14v for charging. I don't know of a way to change any settings to resolve this. An external battery tender or ch

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-28 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Thanks Paul I know it should be but I don’t know how to adjust the leaf dc dc converter. Do you ? Best regards Mark Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2022, at 8:00 AM, paul dove wrote:  The minimum charging voltage is 13.8 volts dc across the battery terminals, or at the output of the alternat

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-28 Thread Bill Dube via EV
The float voltage is 13.5 to 13.8 volts. That is what you would expect to see on the battery terminals when the car has been running for awhile. Charging begins at about 13 volts, BTW. All these voltages are at 25 Celsius. Colder means higher charging voltage (and float voltage.) Hotter means l

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-28 Thread paul dove via EV
The minimum charging voltage is 13.8 volts dc across the battery terminals, or at the output of the alternator. A single lead-acid cell starts to charge at anything over 2.25 volts. Since a 12 volt battery has six cells, any 12 volt lead-acid battery needs at least 13.8 volts to start to charge.

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-27 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Bill is right, the DC-DC cannot be expected to provide all the power, especially for transient loads. Both the brake booster and the power steering can draw large surges of power, this is one of the reasons why most EVs still have a big old lead-acid battery. (bus stability) In a normal ICE car,

Re: [EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-27 Thread Bill Dube via EV
The voltage on a lead-acid battery goes _up_ in cold weather, by the way. Under load in cold weather, however, the higher impedance will tend to make the 12 volt battery voltage sag under load. But the the vehicle DC-DC is working when the brake issue arises, so the battery will play a smalle

[EVDL] Followup: Nissan Leaf 2013 Cold Brake (dropout) Recall

2022-03-27 Thread mark hanson via EV
Hi Folks, I checked the 12V aux voltage through the cigarette lighter socket with a DVM and shows 13.0V during operation. The low voltage storage codes over time were caused by the vehicle sitting a long time and the ghost loads dropping the battery voltage to 10V and had to recharge externall