Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 115, Issue 5

2022-05-20 Thread Offgrid Systems via EV
By the way autopilot or FSD is an option you can buy by the month. 200 bucks. So try it...if you don't like it don't buy. I find on road trips it's great. Worth every penny of the 200 bucks. t Tesla DOES make really good EVs. You can tell, because their owners seem to love them despite their

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 115, Issue 5

2022-05-20 Thread Offgrid Systems via EV
"I find it impossible to believe we would be where we are now without Tesla and Musk.? That is why I am so bumfuzzled by negativism toward both. " I've got 4 friends who are either PhD's or engineers, who have an order in for Model Y, and also some other friends, pilot, busdriver who have Cybe

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 20 May 2022 at 18:50, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Here's one of the reasons Tesla is better: lower drag coefficient ... > > I wish Tesla would come out with an off road model. If they did, I almost guarantee that it wouldn't have as low a drag coefficient. David Roden, EVDL moderator &

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
It’s the new paradigm, right?! (I share your appalledness) They are first movers in an industry, and with a great product. But this is disturbing, and they won’t ultimately succeed unless they fix this. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 20, 2022, at 1:30 PM, Ken Olum via E

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-20 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
ertrand Russell, "Education and the Social Order" > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > >___ > >Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > >No other addresses in TO and CC fie

[EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-20 Thread Ken Olum via EV
We have a 2015 Model S that we bought used in December. It's a nice car and suits our needs well. But Tesla service is a horror. Who ever heard of a car company where you can't call the service department on the phone? Instead you have to use their app. And when they break things, they don't t

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Here's one of the reasons Tesla is better: lower drag coefficient. Why does that matter ? At freeway speeds that means more range per kWh. And that means a smaller battery to be competitive. And that means less weight, which also increases range. Cd Tesla 3: 0.23 Tesla Y: 0.23 Tesla X: 0.24 S

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 19 May 2022 at 13:17, Willie via EV wrote: > I find it impossible to believe we would be where we are now without > Tesla and Musk.  That is why I am so bumfuzzled by negativism toward > both. Hmm, I thought I'd answered that in past posts. Sorry if it wasn't clear. I'll try again, and I h