Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Alexander Clouter
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, at 23:33, Alan DeKok wrote: >> If I did run EAP-TLS as an Inner method (whether once or twice), could I use >> resumption? > > Uh... why didn't anyone mention this before? TEAP is a near-endless > source of surprises and corner cases. In fairness I think you could have th

Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Alexander Clouter
On Fri, 18 Aug 2023, at 01:01, Michael Richardson wrote: > I'm not sure it's sane to use EAP-TLS for Inner method myself. If you mean in the general sense, I can imagine placing the user credential on a hardware key whilst the machine credential is either a regular software keychain or even more

Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Alan DeKok
On Aug 20, 2023, at 5:09 AM, Alexander Clouter wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, at 23:33, Alan DeKok wrote: >>> If I did run EAP-TLS as an Inner method (whether once or twice), could I >>> use resumption? >> >> Uh... why didn't anyone mention this before? TEAP is a near-endless >> source of s

Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Alan DeKok
On Aug 20, 2023, at 5:15 AM, Alexander Clouter wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2023, at 01:01, Michael Richardson wrote: >> I'm not sure it's sane to use EAP-TLS for Inner method myself. > > If you mean in the general sense, I can imagine placing the user credential > on a hardware key whilst the mac

Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Vadim Cargatser (vcargats)
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-12.html#section-3.5.4 Implementations MUST NOT permit resumption for the inner EAP methods such as EAP-TLS. If the user or machine needs to be authenticated, it should use a full authentication method. If the user or machine needs to do r

Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Alan DeKok
On Aug 20, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Vadim Cargatser (vcargats) wrote: > > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-12.html#section-3.5.4 > > Implementations MUST NOT permit resumption for the inner EAP methods > such as EAP-TLS. If the user or machine needs to be authenticated, > i

Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Vadim Cargatser (vcargats)
>> >> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-12.html#section-3.5.4 >> >> Implementations MUST NOT permit resumption for the inner EAP methods >> such as EAP-TLS. If the user or machine needs to be authenticated, >> it should use a full authentication method. If the user or mach

Re: [Emu] WGLC on draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-11

2023-08-20 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 00:26, Michael Richardson wrote: > Heikki Vatiainen wrote: > > Should it be noted that this provisioning method is only available with > > TLS 1.2 and earlier because the method requires anonymous ciphersuites? > > It confirms to the reader that this is the in