[Emu] EAP-AKA' and Re: WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

2019-04-03 Thread John Mattsson
Michael Richardson wrote: >I implemented server side EAP-SIM and EAP-AKA back 16 some years ago. >Based upon the many emails I got asking for help configuring EAP-SIM, and >the zero I got for EAP-AKA, I have never been sure to what extend AKA >really go out there. Is the nano-SIM in my phone SIM

Re: [Emu] EAP-AKA' and Re: WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

2019-04-03 Thread Alan DeKok
On Apr 3, 2019, at 1:37 AM, Joseph Salowey wrote: > > Thanks for reviving this thread. I agree this is important work, but we need > to have consensus to bring the item into the working group. I think the IPR > issue is the main sticking point. > > I'll note that RFC 5448 has a similar IPR

Re: [Emu] EAP-AKA' and Re: WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

2019-04-03 Thread Jari Arkko
Michael, Thanks for your comments. A couple of responses: with regards to deployment, there’s some amount of EAP SIM/AKA deployment, but until now it hasn’t been for the primary mobile network access. It was only used for Wireless LANs when you have a SIM card. Nevertheless, both protocols are

Re: [Emu] EAP-AKA' and Re: WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

2019-04-03 Thread Michael Richardson
John Mattsson wrote: >> I was always very sad that AKA did not get more uptake as it authenticates >> the network to the phone, and therefore would have (as I understand things) >> defended against "Stingray" like equipment used without judicial review, >> requiring interceptors