[Emu] Draft agenda for IETF 72

2008-07-09 Thread Alan DeKok
The following is the draft agenda for IETF 72. If there are no comments or additions, it will be submitted later this week to the IETF web site. Agenda for IETF 72: Blue sheets and Agenda updates 5 minutes draft-ietf-emu-eaptunnel-req-00.txt 60 minutes Intermezzo (Some people need to leave

Re: [Emu] Review of Requirements for an Tunnel Based EAP Method

2008-07-09 Thread Hao Zhou (hzhou)
The intent of this requirement is to protect any data sent outside the TLS data. This would include the EAP header and any method specific fields such as version number field. We know we cannot protect these data before a TLS session is established, most likely we are talking about validation after

Re: [Emu] A comment on credential provisioning

2008-07-09 Thread Hao Zhou (hzhou)
Bernard: There might be multiple uses cases for credential provisioning and enrollment. One case is just like you mentioned to initial bootstrap the device. Other case might be provisioning additional credentials used for other applications once the device has been fully provisioned. Third case w

Re: [Emu] Requirements for Channel Binding in the Tunnel Method Requirements document

2008-07-09 Thread Hao Zhou (hzhou)
Bernard: Section 4.4 lists the requirement for channel binding as "The tunnel method MUST be capable of supporting EAP channel bindings described above.". I think this is the intent of the requirement. Section 4.1.1 language of "MUST support" might be too strong. Are you ok with changing Section

Re: [Emu] Draft agenda for IETF 72

2008-07-09 Thread Glen Zorn
Alan DeKok [mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The following is the draft agenda for IETF 72. If there are no > comments or additions, it will be submitted later this week to the IETF > web site. Given some of the recent comments on the list, I wonder if it would be permissible to discuss ea

Re: [Emu] Review of Requirements for an Tunnel Based EAP Method

2008-07-09 Thread Bernard Aboba
Given this, the requirement could be rephrased to highlight the items that need to be protected (type code, version numbers, etc.), while dropping the EAP Header protection requirement. -Original Message- From: Hao Zhou (hzhou) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:

Re: [Emu] Requirements for Channel Binding in the Tunnel Method Requirements document

2008-07-09 Thread Bernard Aboba
Yes, changing the language to be consistent with Section 4.4 would be good. I would also remove the reference to RFC 4962 Section 3, and substitute one to RFC 4017 instead (since channel bindings are explicitly discussed there and indicated as optional). From: Hao Zhou (hzhou) [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: [Emu] Review of Requirements for an Tunnel Based EAP Method

2008-07-09 Thread Hao Zhou (hzhou)
Sounds fine to me. > -Original Message- > From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:05 PM > To: Hao Zhou (hzhou); Joseph Salowey (jsalowey); emu@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Emu] Review of Requirements for an Tunnel Based > EAP Method > > Given this, t

Re: [Emu] A comment on credential provisioning

2008-07-09 Thread Bernard Aboba
I'm ok with saying that the tunnel method MUST support attribute extensibility and EAP methods running within it. As you say, an EAP method could handle the credential provisioning, it doesn't need to be part of the tunnel protocol. The WFA's WPS EAP method is an example of this. If there i

Re: [Emu] Draft agenda for IETF 72

2008-07-09 Thread Dan Harkins
I think this is a very good idea. +1 and all that jazz. I hope some time can be alloted to discuss this. Dan. On Wed, July 9, 2008 10:28 am, Glen Zorn wrote: > Alan DeKok [mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> The following is the draft agenda for IETF 72. If there are no >> comments or