To: chenmeil...@chinamobile.com , Jari Arkko
, Vesa Torvinen , John
Mattsson
Cc: emu@ietf.org
Subject: RE: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi!
If I understand correctly, you mean that current PQ-secure key establishment
schemes are either broken or do not provide PFS.
Because of
; Jari Arkko
; Vesa Torvinen ; John
Mattsson
Cc: emu
Subject: Re: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi,
Currently, the only PQC related to DH is SIDH, which is the cracked one we have
mentioned.
In addition, other PQC algorithms are independent of DH, so PFS cannot be
used" should be more accurate.
Best,
Meiling
From: Karl Norrman
Date: 2023-03-15 20:23
To: chenmeil...@chinamobile.com; Jari Arkko; Vesa Torvinen; John Mattsson
CC: emu@ietf.org
Subject: RE: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi!
Maybe I misunderstand you. What I propose
: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi,
It seems not accurate enough, one of PQCs which has built-in DH algorithm has
been cracked.
The sentence "the security and availability of PFS need to be further evaluated
when PQC is used" should be more accurate.
Best
: chenmeil...@chinamobile.com; Jari Arkko; Vesa Torvinen; John Mattsson
CC: emu@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi!
Section 7.5 currently states:
“… introduction of a powerful enough quantum computer would disable this
protocol extension's ability
Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2023 08:18
To: Karl Norrman ; Jari Arkko
; Vesa Torvinen ; John
Mattsson
Cc: emu
Subject: Re: Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi,
Since the differences are in PQC problem.
I suggest adding a description in Section 7.5: the security and availab
CC: emu
Subject: Re: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi,
There are some concerns about the use of PFS in CT network, although PFS adds
some security in theory, it may not be appropriate for actual deployment.
Since this is closely related to 3GPP, what are their comments?
Best
...@chinamobile.com; Jari Arkko; Vesa Torvinen; John Mattsson
CC: emu@ietf.org
Subject: RE: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi!
I understand your main concern to be that you prefer to see a solution adding
PFS that is also secure against a PQ attacker and that does not increase the
-attacker resistant mechanism.
BR Karl
From: Meiling Chen
Sent: Monday, 27 February 2023 04:02
To: Karl Norrman ; Jari Arkko
; Vesa Torvinen ; John
Mattsson
Cc: emu
Subject: Re: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi,
I don't agree with you mix SUCI and D-H here, It has
Arkko; Vesa Torvinen; John Mattsson
Subject: RE: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi!
Please see inline.
From: Meiling Chen
Sent: Monday, 13 February 2023 02:31
To: Karl Norrman ; Jari Arkko
; Vesa Torvinen ; John
Mattsson
Subject: Re: RE: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-em
01-26 22:36
To: emu@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
Hi,
The -10 version fixes various nits found by Peter Yee.
Cheers,
John
From: Emu on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org
Date: Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 15:31
To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org
Cc: emu@iet
Hi,
The -10 version fixes various nits found by Peter Yee.
Cheers,
John
From: Emu on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org
Date: Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 15:31
To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org
Cc: emu@ietf.org
Subject: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-10.txt
A New Internet-Draft is
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the EAP Method Update WG of the IETF.
Title : Forward Secrecy for the Extensible Authentication
Protocol Method for Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA' FS)
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