Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 20:09, John Dammeyer wrote: On 7/4/23 18:18, gene heskett wrote: On 7/4/23 16:49, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Gene, I think you are overthinking the problem. . Lets clarify where the error is, because the turn around at the bottom of the hole is synchronized, the turn around at the top

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread John Dammeyer
On 7/4/23 18:18, gene heskett wrote: > On 7/4/23 16:49, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Gene, I think you are overthinking the problem. . > Lets clarify where the error is, because the turn around at the bottom > of the hole is synchronized, the turn around at the top is not. > So where is it when the e

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread Chris Albertson
With no look-ahead, it might work well for those who use the fourth axis as a way to rotate the part only to expose a new side for more 3D milling. In other words, you don’t need look ahead if you are not cutting will rotating. But if all four axes are moving at the same time, looking ahead wo

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 18:18, gene heskett wrote: On 7/4/23 16:49, John Dammeyer wrote: The problem is under the covers somewhere and the Joint 2 following error isn't totally accurate but is what happens later. John Lets clarify where the error is, because the turn around at the bottom of the hole is sy

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread Sam Sokolik
> > The problem seems to be that our trajectory planner lack the ability to > look ahead for any rotary axis. This means that a coordinated move that > includes a rotary move will be dysfunctional at best. I read that as - poor look ahead - not 'doesn't work' On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:21 PM Sam S

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread Sam Sokolik
Lol - then I guess I read too far into it.. I have run 4th axis rotary motion just fine.. On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:15 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 22:50, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > > He is not saying it doesn't work... > > Actually, he did say that. > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 16:49, John Dammeyer wrote: The problem is under the covers somewhere and the Joint 2 following error isn't totally accurate but is what happens later. John That reads like the spindle stop time is overly long to me. Actually the spindle stops so quickly that I can hear the splines

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 22:50, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > He is not saying it doesn't work... Actually, he did say that. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Const

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread Sam Sokolik
He is not saying it doesn't work... He is saying the performance isn't there.. On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 4:14 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 7/4/23 16:42, andrew beck wrote: > > I would also help pay someone in a heart beat to fix the trajectory > planner. > > > > Some sort of jerk control would be awe

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread John Dammeyer
Update! [SPINDLE_9] MAX_VELOCITY = 50.0 MAX_ACCELERATION = 30.0 # The values below should be 25% larger than MAX_VELOCITY and MAX_ACCELERATION # If using BACKLASH compensation STEPGEN_MAXACCEL should be 100% larger. STEPGEN_MAXVEL = 62.50 STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 37.50 Now I can run S200 for tapping an

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 16:42, andrew beck wrote: I would also help pay someone in a heart beat to fix the trajectory planner. Some sort of jerk control would be awesome. It doesn't need to be active in any special cases like spindle synchronization but just if it worked for 4 axis simple motor at least woul

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread John Dammeyer
> The problem is under the covers somewhere and the Joint 2 following error > isn't totally accurate but is what happens later. > John > That reads like the spindle stop time is overly long to me. Actually the spindle stops so quickly that I can hear the splines rattle in the pulley driver.

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread andrew beck
I would also help pay someone in a heart beat to fix the trajectory planner. Some sort of jerk control would be awesome. It doesn't need to be active in any special cases like spindle synchronization but just if it worked for 4 axis simple motor at least would be a game changer On Wed, 5 Jul 202

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread Chris Albertson
The problem with transforming an STL file to a “real” CAD file is that the STL is only an approximation of the true shape. The software would have to have some intelligence to see that the designer intended to (say) have a curved profile revolved around an axis to make a complex shape on a lath

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread Martin Dobbins
"If we could get hold of the patches that introduced it to Tormach then we could look at integrating it" Maybe a Tormach user could help with that? Martin From: andy pugh Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 1:13 PM To: EMC developers Cc: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 18:34, Marius wrote: > The problem seems to be that our trajectory planner lack the ability to > look ahead for any rotary axis. This means that a coordinated move that > includes a rotary move will be dysfunctional at best. It's not as bad as that. There is a 9-axis blend

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because I

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because I

[Emc-users] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread Marius
Hi I have been trying to get a rotary fourth axis setup going with the help of regular and knowledgable contributors to LinuxCnc. We came up against a brick wall as many other project developers have done. The problem seems to be that our trajectory planner lack the ability to look ahead for

Re: [Emc-users] Wiring Step Dir on KM5056E

2023-07-04 Thread johnd
It's a good idea to create a drawing like the one in this link.  It shows how to connect a Breakout Board to the system.https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/featured-cnc-products/kl-5056e-digital-stepper-driverThe stepper drivers tend to have opto inputs and can be wired to op

Re: [Emc-users] Wiring Step Dir on KM5056E

2023-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 21:25, condit.alan--- via Emc-users wrote: > > I had to invert the direction on all of my axises to get it working like it > used to. Swapping the DIR wires on a bipolar setup is a reasonable way to invert an axis. But it's possibly not idea for the step pins as the drivers

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because I've seen some of the worst geometry ever made by people

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 03:15, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Gene, I suspect the problem is a bit strange in my case. I can run the knee at 150 ipm. The tapping in this case happens at 10 ipm. The I3 parameter means it returns at 30 IPM. I can jog up and down at say 60 IPM and never get a following error for

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 02:01, andrew beck wrote: I run a CNC machine shop full time. We always want the step files. Or SOLIDWORKS files etc. And we make it own gcode from that. It would be a nightmare to run someone else's gcode lol. I'll have to agree Andrew. Most of the stuff on thingiverse for 3d pri

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 error then g-code file parsed

2023-07-04 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Gene, I suspect the problem is a bit strange in my case. I can run the knee at 150 ipm. The tapping in this case happens at 10 ipm. The I3 parameter means it returns at 30 IPM. I can jog up and down at say 60 IPM and never get a following error for Joint 2 which is the Z axis. Since this