ilosophical level we compete with
them.
> I presume NonGNU Elpa was your idea, and it was the right one.
I have a feeling that you've probably misunderstood the purpose
of NonGNU ELPA, but since you have not given specifics, I can't
really tell.
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e in a way that avoids the SIL font license?
It is better to avoid that if possible.
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ont license?
> > It is better to avoid that if possible.
> It looks like that, yes. I'll make sure to specifically avoid the SIL
> font license when possible in my in-development library icons.el.
It is desirable to avoid the SIL font license, but it isn't crucial.
ed?
The problem is described explicily in the item in
https://gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html. It is not disastrous, but
it is annoying.
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ssignment than it is for Emacs.
I agree completely. Those developers made a grave, foolish mistake.
I wish I could have stopped them.
I will do everything within my power to prevent more such mistakes.
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uld be
changed, and their comments about the specific method of implementing
that change? We might be able to get better at that, since I expect
everyone will agree it is good to do that if one can.
I'll reply to #2 privately.
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re.
The situation with TeX is that way.
But what they are doing makes it SaaSS all the way.
It's legitimate to offer a service of virtual servers on which you
can run your choice of system and software. But systems and software
that you can't extract from those particular virtual servers a
contrast, ChatGTP is neither a community project nor free/libre.
That's perhaps why it arranges to manipulate people into "contributing"
rather than letting them choose.
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Fo
particular platform to modify and run the model have the feasible
freedom of copying their modified versions off that platform and onto
any other platform that satisfies the specs needed to run these models.
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ared history file approach
to the one-history-per-process approach?
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s decides to do the same, one of their
> new history entries would be lost due to the other one overriding it.
> This would be a bug.
Only if they share one single history file. If each has its own
history file, each can handle it as if it were your only Bash process.
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at by default, as it's
> currently the default.
It seems fine to support both modes and let each user choose.
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d 2000, it was free.
The issue with KDE, as of 1998, was that Qt was nonfree.
At some point Qt was made free. I don't know whether that had
happened by 2000. Maybe a few years after.
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ther free desktop.
GNOME was the response.
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essTif not an
> alternative because of LGPL license, or some other reason?
LeesTif was a fine replacement for Motif.
However, to untrap KDE, we needed a replacement for Qt.
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o include only free
packages but show them in all distros.
Our site could be frepology.org.
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n express your recommendations in ways that contribute
to our work rather than hampering it.
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ions.
The situation is clear. People have different positions because they
start from different goals and values. There is no need to rehash it.
Just because it's a tangent does not mean we need to discuss it.
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at would aid per free software work.
So if using repology.org helps you work on Emacs, by all means use it.
(Did anyone here say you shouldn't?)
But we shouldn't refer _the public_ to repology.org.
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you command.
The issue about repology.org is not about that. It is whether we
should tell the public about its existence, for instance by including
in Emacs a program specifically aimed at that site.
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guistic misunderstanding here. "Legitimate" can
mean "legitimate according to the law" or "legitimate according to
standards of right and wrong". I generally use it in the latter
sense, and I think you do too. Maybe Eli applied the first
interpretation.
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ther companies or individuals control
> my data.
This looks like a miscommnuication to me. I think that what you are
arguing against may not be what the other person meant.
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tuğ, I suggest reading
ttps://gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html to
see what our goals and values are.
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software in the Free World,
on GNU.
The last part of your message seems to be a lot of vituperation.
If you have such a low opinion of our efforts, nobody insists you
have to participate.
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ree program, we lead per to surrender freedom to it.
Therefore we try to avoid that.
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the GNU Coding Standards.
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that the Debian developers and the Gentoo developers are honest and
follow their moral codes. We don't mean to criticize them as people.
We try to make this clear in gnu.org/distros. If you see anything
there which is not clear, please write me privately and show me the
text you mean.
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Would someone like to volunteer to set up frepology.org?
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s.
There are many reasons we might not put a package into GNU ELPA
even though it is sometimes useful for people.
I will write to you about this privately on Monday. Tomorrow I have
an all-day meeting.
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do this part of my job with GNU-endorsed free software
> is a major blow.
On Monday could you explain that to me? It isn't obvious.
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ct it
given this information, then telling per is harmless.
Otherwise, the question is no so simple.
That leaves a lot to say about the other issues raised.
I can't do it today.
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o
> read or interact with non free software since non free software
> can't even be mentioned by GNU software.
Have you ever visited a web site that is not mentioned in your
browser's documentation or in Emacs? I would expect you have.
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you'll see that it is practical and clear.
You might still disagree with it, but at least you'll be disagreeing
with something real.
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convince me, you have to show you understand what I'm saying, then point
out a problem so I can agree it is a problem. Bludgeoning me with sarcasm
only vents your hostility, and that doesn't mean I'm wrong.
I am asking various people to be less strident, not only you.
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would have no problem with setting it up as long as repology.org
> provides all pieces of free software available. It seem to be the case.
Would you, please? I think that would resolve some tensions now.
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Found
could be
> made if make GNU OS (Linux based) more attractive to more
> people.
Of course, we try to do that. It is easier said than done. There is
no way to do it in general -- only various ways to do a lit of it in
specific. Those depend on volunteers who want to work on it.
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emn an act without
condemning the person who does it. Nuances like that are important.
To simplify them away would result in being too harsh on the people.
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it means. However,
I can tell you what the GNU Project says. The GNU Project never
condemns people for using nonfree software and never tries to insist
that people must use exclusively free software.
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e going to use it.
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t a crucial issue, as long as it is not meant
for anyone to change it.
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whether its in Emacs or
not, you can tell it to look at whichever site you like.
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situations which present the same kinds of factors
differ in how significant each factor is.
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#x27;re arguing very hard about some issue, but I can't follow which
issue, and I don't think it is the issue I was talking about.
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. I think was emphatically saying they were making a foolish
choice, a weak choice.
That's true -- but there's no use condemning people for not being
more courageous.
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tware in hardware?
I've told you my general views on appliances with nonfree software in
them. If you want to take a different stance, that's up to you.
I don't have time to argue about that issue this week.
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t; 7.4.?
I think I misread it before. Sorry.
Section 7.4 says it is possible to add to the license of a program
a clause saying to preserve a specific notice. We could do that,
but I am not sure it is wise.
Let's ask the Spacemacs developers to cooperate.
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icensing
> compliance.
>From what I have read, it seems that the behavior of copilot runs on a
spectrum from the first description to the second description. I
expect that in many cases, nothing copyrightable has been copied, but
in some cases copilot does copy a substantial amount from
.
We don't use the slogan "open source" because we want to advocate
freedom, not forget it.
See https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
for more explanation of the difference between free software and open
source. See also https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-me
for
> copyright purposes as the new author cannot know which part of the
> code has used "rare" verbatim.
I think that is correct. Falling into this pit may be unusual, but
that doesn't make it painless.
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that means.
If it is something to be viewed, how can I do so?
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is. I did not expect the "virtual assistant" to know such
things, so I did not try.
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love it too.
Have you read stallman.org/puns.html?
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upposition
that they are equivalent in capabilities.
We do not know how the human brain is organized or how it works,
We DO know how an LLM is organized and how it works.
We know some things that they inherently can't do and humans can do.
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