Re: Simplified Org mode for newcomer Emacs veterans (was: Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package))

2022-06-18 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tom Gillespie writes: > >> With regard to the key-bindings straw man. I guess I'm a bit of an >> outsider on this one, because I started writing org documents by just >> typing them in and only over time learning some of the bindings. Maybe >> having an org-markup-mode

Re: [PATCH worg 0/2] Cleanup of LoB file

2022-06-18 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien Guerry writes: > ~theophilusx writes: > >> These patches just perform some basic cleanup of the library-of- >> babel.org file. It also moves a duplicate library-of-babel.org file into >> the archive directory. Note that I am working on a complete overhaul of >> worg, which I will impl

Re: About 'inline special blocks'

2022-06-19 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > To add some ideas that have been occurring to me these days... > > I am more and more convinced that inline special blocks, by their > nature, should not support fine tune options or anything like > attr_latex, attr_html, etc. like its older brothers, as it would pr

Re: Orgmode plain list bullet : change automatically with list depth

2022-06-19 Thread Tim Cross
Edouard Debry writes: > Are you sure bullet lists are irrelevant to org ? > > I tried without success to make a list without "-" or "+" in my > *scratch*. > Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. The 'marker' which is at the start of a list item is important to org. What isn't important is the type of

Re: About 'inline special blocks'

2022-06-20 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 19/06/2022 19:47, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > Concerning vs. , is it the same for assistive > technologies like screen readers to add text (or text) > and text with "font-weight: bolder;" in CSS? First, never use or , only use semantic tags for accessibility. The q

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-20 Thread Tim Cross
Russell Adams writes: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 02:03:15PM +, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: >> I've been intrigued with GNU Hyperbole for a while. I'm reading the >> documentation and trying it out a bit. It seems that its button system >> is very powerful. But Org links are also powerful (and

Re: [PATCH] Re: [BUG] Adding note to heading without newline at the end

2022-06-21 Thread Tim Cross
Tor Kringeland writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Aha. Not saving is an important piece of information. >> (said the person with compulsive saving syndrome) > > Thanks! This fixes the bug (which was present in both Org 9.5 and 9.6) > for me. However, my original bug, which is only present

Re: Using exec functions to simplify session code

2022-06-23 Thread Tim Cross
Ivar Fredholm writes: > I have been browsing the orgmode code and it feels like we have to do a lot > to implement sessions. At least for Python > or Julia, I am wondering if we could instantiate an interpreter, and send the > code as a single 'exec' or 'include' > command. Other languages li

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-23 Thread Tim Cross
Hi Robert, welcome to the list. I find hyperbole very interesting and am trying it out now. I can see a few areas where I think it may augment my current org based workflows and development tasks. One thing I will be looking at is how well hyperbole works with an evil-mode based configuratio

Re: Org mode export accessibility (was: About 'inline special blocks')

2022-06-25 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Sadly, org isn't great from an accessibility perspective. This is >> something I would like to see improved, but it is a huge and complex >> task. There are some 'easy' winds we could try. For example,

Re: C-SPC works; C-u C-SPC doesn't. How could be?

2022-06-26 Thread Tim Cross
Ypo writes: > Thanks, Bruno > > I've debugged it manually because (keymap-lookup) doesn't seem to exist in my > emacs, if that's possible. > > The problem comes from: > > (define-key org-mode-map (kbd "C-u C-n") #'org-next-item) > > If I eval that line, "C-u C-SPC" stops working on org-mode.

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github

2022-06-27 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: >> GNU packages should not steer people towards running nonfree software. >> As a consequence, they should not suggest people donate using payment >> services >> that _require_ the donor to run a nonfree program. > > A slight variant of Ihor's question. > > While GNU pack

Re: We have asynchronous sessions, why have anything else?

2022-06-27 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: >> I am not even sure if all the babel backends support try-except. >> Think about ob-gnuplot or, say, ob-latex. > > Indeed many do not. Defining some standard "features" > for org babel language implementations is something that > is definitely of interest so that we can

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github

2022-06-28 Thread Tim Cross
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > Richard Stallman writes: > >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to fol

Re: Alternatives to clocking in/out for reporting time

2022-06-29 Thread Tim Cross
Russell Adams writes: > I make extensive use of timestamps for billing (timesheet) > purposes. I'm looking to automate this more, and I find the existing > clocking system inadequate. I'm hoping someone can point me in the > right direction. > > Today I have log mode enabled so that each time I

Re: Library of babel help

2022-06-30 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> in my attempt to fix up some issues on the Worg site, I'm finding there >> is considerably more things broken than I initially realised. One of >> these things is 'the library of babel". >> >>

Re: Serving .org files for worg (was: Re: Library of babel help)

2022-06-30 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 30/06/2022 16:06, Tim Cross wrote: >> >>> Aren't they currently available? I can and I was always able to get the >>> org sources by changing the link from .html to .org. >> No, that doesn't work for me using either chrome

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github

2022-06-30 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > I do make a serious point: by linking to li

Re: [PATCH] Delete some Emacs 24 compat code

2022-06-30 Thread Tim Cross
Samuel Wales writes: > i use git version, not elpa, so for me, mailing list could tip me off > as early as possible, but not too early, if it said in email subject > header line that in a known upcoming release, it has been decided that > a specified emacs version will no longer be supported [n

Re: Org links and Flatpak firefox

2022-07-02 Thread Tim Cross
Ken Mankoff writes: > Hello, > > I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 22.04. Firefox is no longer instsallable via > apt so I chose flatpak over snap. Now when I C-c C-o > (org-open-at-point) on a URL, Firefox comes to the foreground, but nothing > else happens. The page does not load. If I 'xdg-ope

Re: [BUG] The documentation webserver gives 404s [9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-3-g6dc785 @ )]

2022-07-03 Thread Tim Cross
le >> getting familiar with it, this issue might cause a lot of headaches for >> no good reason. > > Thanks for the heads up! > I am CCing Tim Cross. He is currently doing some work on our server. He > is more likely to know how to fix this. > Well I'm not sure what is

Re: [BUG] The documentation webserver gives 404s [9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-3-g6dc785 @ )]

2022-07-03 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: >> > I noticed that the Org documentation server gives 404 Not Found for a > large number of links published all over the internet because (1) it > parses URLs case-sensitively and (2) the case has changed at some point. > I stumble upon such 404s errors dai

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-07-04 Thread Tim Cross
"Fraga, Eric" writes: > Robert, > > just one quick comment and question (maybe the documentation covers > this; if so, apologies): when I tried hyperbole years ago, the annoying > thing was that it took over C-h. My muscle memory after decades of > Emacs use was disturbed significantly as I us

Re: [BUG] The documentation webserver gives 404s [9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-3-g6dc785 @ )]

2022-07-04 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I do have an alternative suggestion which may help. Given that the >> 'broken' URLs are actually from external links to old documentation >> which has been removed, what we could do is create a more informative

Re: [BUG] The documentation webserver gives 404s [9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-3-g6dc785 @ )]

2022-07-04 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > > However it seems, Bastien earlier configured a set of rewrite rules mapping > old file names > with more lower case letters to new ones. In my opinion it is the best option > and it > should be restored. List of files may be committed to git (either Org or > site) to

Re: [BUG] The documentation webserver gives 404s [9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-3-g6dc785 @ )]

2022-07-04 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 05/07/2022 05:37, Tim Cross wrote: >> Max Nikulin writes: >>> >>> However it seems, Bastien earlier configured a set of rewrite rules mapping >>> old file names >>> with more lower case letters to new ones. In my opinion it

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github

2022-07-04 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > However, if the web pages for a GNU package w

Re: [BUG] The documentation webserver gives 404s [9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-3-g6dc785 @ )]

2022-07-04 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 05/07/2022 09:54, Tim Cross wrote: >> Max Nikulin writes: >>> Bastien. Re: Possible bug report: URL capitalization in online manual. Mon, >>> 10 Feb 2020 >>> 07:48:21 +0100 https://list.orgmode.org/874kvzdjka@gnu.org/ >>

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github

2022-07-07 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > "Note: To be PCI compliant, you must load S

Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?

2022-07-08 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 09/07/2022 01:49, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> Juan Manuel Macías writes: >> >>> TL;DR: A list of use cases where using LuaTeX is more advantageous than >>> using pdfTeX >> I forgot to ask earlier.  Is Lua support in Babel potentially useful? The >> current >> implementat

Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?

2022-07-08 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Juan, I think it would be great to add your post to worg. I'm happy to >> do this, but I think it wold also be good if we could include a basic >> 'setup' i.e. what changes people might need to (or should

Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?

2022-07-09 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi, Tim, thank you for your comments, > > Tim Cross writes: > >> Juan, I think it would be great to add your post to worg. I'm happy to >> do this, but I think it wold also be good if we could include a basic >> 'setup

Re: M-x org-create-worg-article command? (was: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?)

2022-07-10 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Juan Manuel Macías writes: >> >> Thanks Juan. It will be fairly trivial to compile the information you >> have provided into a basic org document which I can then add to org. If >> on the other hand you wou

Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...")

2022-07-10 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Considering some discussions in the parent thread, I think maybe it > wouldn't hurt to ensure a minimal preamble when the output is compiled > with LuaLaTeX or XelaTeX, so that some very basic fontspec configuration > is loaded to be able to read PDFs in non-Latin s

Re: M-x org-create-worg-article command? (was: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?)

2022-07-10 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Only drawback I can see is that should we want to change the template, >> we would have to wait until a new version is released and then you will >> still have a mix of templates as lots of people will wait until n

Re: M-x org-create-worg-article command? (was: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?)

2022-07-10 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> The template can be automatically updated by the command, possibly after >>> asking user. >>> >> >> Not sure I understand. Maybe we are imagining different things? >> >> If org has

Re: Alternatives or org-capture?

2022-07-11 Thread Tim Cross
ypuntot writes: > I'm going to start using org-contacts. And, with that, I would like to use > org-capture or yankpad. Which one would you recommend using? > I have been trying to use org-capture but it doesn't seem too intuitive for > me :$ > > I saved time ago a tutorial for yankpad, and i

Re: non requested string translation in timestamps

2022-07-16 Thread Tim Cross
Cédric Martínez Campos writes: > Hi there! > > When I add a timestamp through, for instance, scheduling (C-c s), the > day abbreviation is translated to my local language, that is, Spanish. > However all calendar variables, calendar-*, and, more specifically, > calendar-day-{name,header,abbrev}

Re: no syntax highlighting for code blocks with org-publish

2022-07-18 Thread Tim Cross
"M. Pger" writes: > Thank you for your answer. Here it is: > > 1. Create the following directory structure (3 directories): > ~/test/ > ├── content > ├── html > └── .packages > > 2. Create the .el script to build the website (=~/test/build.el=): > > #+begin_src elisp > ;; * Set the package in

Re: no syntax highlighting for code blocks with org-publish

2022-07-19 Thread Tim Cross
"M. Pger" writes: > Thanks for your suggestion. I added the following: > > #+begin_src elisp :eval no :exports code > (setq my-var "org mailing list") > (message "Hello, %s" my-var) > #+end_src > > When exported with ~C-c C-e h o~, syntax highlighting is implemented (with > colors). When >

Re: no syntax highlighting for code blocks with org-publish

2022-07-19 Thread Tim Cross
"M. Pger" writes: > I tried to publish using `M-x org-publish RET RET` as you > suggested, and > syntax highlighting was actually implemented, thanks. > > Actually the problem is coming from the fact that I use `emacs -Q --script > build.el` (as a > bash script) to publish the project. Accor

Re: Volunteering to maintain ob-asymptote.el within Org

2022-07-26 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Another question is long-term maintainability. We have a limited > manpower and cannot cater too many support requests or take care about > parts of code not used by most people. After removing org-contrib over a > year ago, your email is the first issue raised regardin

Re: Volunteering to maintain ob-asymptote.el within Org

2022-07-26 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> As this module has never been part of org core, there is considerable >> work which would need to be done as a prerequisite e.g. updating the >> manual and adding documentation and examples, adding unit tests >>

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

2022-07-27 Thread Tim Cross
Note that identifying when org is loaded is not always straight-forward. There are lots of packages which include org support which can result in org being loaded as a side effect when you load them. This is especially true of non-core packages which will use explicit require statements rather th

Re: [PATCH] Add new entity \-- serving as markup separator/escape symbol

2022-07-28 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> I am attaching a tentative patch that will make Org export remove >> zero-width spaces when those spaces actually separate the object >> boundaries. >> >> Any objections? > > Given the raised objections, zero-width space does not appear to b

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

2022-07-29 Thread Tim Cross
Sharon Kimble writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Sharon Kimble writes: >> >>> But, I'm unable to 'make autoloads' in the git version because its >>> trying to connect to /usr/share/emacs and looking for something >>> there which isn't there and just

Re: Serving .org files for worg (was: Re: Library of babel help)

2022-07-29 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 01/07/2022 04:48, Tim Cross wrote: >> 1. Just using the .org as the suffix of the url instead of the .html did >> not work for me using two different browser. However, it did work for >> ihor, so either I did something wrong or there is something

Re: Org links and Flatpak firefox

2022-07-29 Thread Tim Cross
Ken Mankoff writes: > >> Out of curiosity, what is the reason why you are avoiding firefox as a >> snap package? > > I'm not 100 % sure why but I don't like snap. Maybe because it pollutes the > home folder. I > read up on snap vs flatpak vs AppImage and flatpak seemed to get the best > revie

Re: Exporting tables from python code block: Wrong type argument: markerp, nil

2022-08-02 Thread Tim Cross
Mark Barton writes: > On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:58 AM, Darren Syzling wrote: > > If I execute the code in the editor the org-mode table appears in the > results. If I export to html or pdf I get the error: > org-babel-insert-result: Wrong type argument: markerp, nil. > > I also am experiencing

Re: [PATCH] Delete some Emacs 24 compat code

2022-08-08 Thread Tim Cross
Hi Bastien, all you wrote is fine IMO. However, I think Ihor's point was mainly in response to the request that we notify the list when compatibility is going to be lost and that when it comes to versions less than the currently maintained versions, this isn't really possible. To put it in more c

Re: [PATCH] Delete some Emacs 24 compat code

2022-08-09 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 08/08/2022 22:46, Bastien wrote: >> Ihor Radchenko writes: >> >>> Could you please elaborate on how exactly we can determine if a >>> commit changes the compatibility status? >> Today, we are interested in knowing whether Org is compatible with >> Emacs 28.1, Emacs 27.

Re: [PATCH] Delete some Emacs 24 compat code

2022-08-09 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: >> Please, keep ";; Package-Requires: " version in org.el consistent with >> such statement (Should it be updated for the bugfix branch as well?). > > Unfortunately it is not clear that this is the right thing to do because > nearly every feature of org may work on old ver

Re: [PATCH] Delete some Emacs 24 compat code

2022-08-10 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: > > As mentioned above, I also like this approach. We could create a hack > to work around the missing package metadata field, which would cause > a failure when trying to build on emacs < 26 unless org-i-know-what-i-am-doing > or some such is non-nil. The error message wo

Re: [PATCH] Delete some Emacs 24 compat code

2022-08-10 Thread Tim Cross
Samuel Wales writes: > tim cross, i would like to ask politely for you personally to > henceforth please be VERY VERY careful when you say that i said or > wanted something or tried to do something. i am not referring to this > thread but general espeially in another thread.

Re: [PATCH] Delete some Emacs 24 compat code

2022-08-10 Thread Tim Cross
Samuel Wales writes: > tim cross, i would like to ask politely for you personally to > henceforth please be VERY VERY careful when you say that i said or > wanted something or tried to do something. i am not referring to this > thread but general espeially in another thread. B

Re: org-mode compile issue this morning - how to report this?

2022-08-23 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Daniel Ortmann writes: > >> This morning I can't get org-mode to compile and load at all.  And the >> bug reporting is not working. >> >> What to do? >> >> Thank you! >> >> Here are this morning's messages: >> >> make -C lisp compile > > What if you just run "make" fr

Re: Conditionally use files in org-roam

2022-08-25 Thread Tim Cross
juh writes: > Dear all, > > I have 10.800 files in my roam directory. 10.000 files are not used often. > The huge amount > of files make org-roam slow on my simple notebook. Is it possible to > conditionally load > files into roam only if I really need them? > > I am aware that some reference

Re: [External] : Re: org-mode compile issue this morning - how to report this?

2022-08-25 Thread Tim Cross
Emacs 29.1 refers to the first release of Emacs 29, which has not yet occurred. Emacs 29.0.50 refers to version 29 of emacs which has not yet had a release candidate issued i.e. still very much development and not yet at beta level. Once the first release candidate is issued, the version will lik

Re: [BUG] org babel python execute from local buffer to remote session [9.5.4 (9.5.4-ge0b05b @ /home/moutsopoulosg/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.4/)]

2022-08-26 Thread Tim Cross
George Moutsopoulos writes: > Hi all. I often need to run some code on a remote ssh session, because > only there I can access a database and the environment is hard to > replicate, while I want to keep the code I run on my local machine. > > The remote session is initialised with run-python af

Re: Org Publish HTML and PDF With GPG Files

2022-08-26 Thread Tim Cross
l...@tosk.in writes: > Good Afternoon, > > I have my org directory filled with encrypted files ending in ".org.gpg". The > publish documentation says that org-mode will > automatically replace references to ".org" files with ".html", but this is > not an automatic action if the files are ".org

Re: Manual Ordering and Dynamic Priority

2022-08-31 Thread Tim Cross
Eduardo Suarez writes: > I have lots of tasks (todos) and I would like to create a long backlog based > on > my perceived priority. > > I was thinking to deal with them in the following way: > > - divide them in groups (categories or similar), > - manually sort priority for every group, > - me

Re: [BUG] Markdown export of description list with nested list [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @ /usr/local/share/emacs/28.1/lisp/org/)]

2022-09-02 Thread Tim Cross
"Rohit Patnaik" writes: > As I understand it, the bug is in `org-md-item'. It formats the tag portion > of the > description with **%s**, and then simply concatenates the content. This is > fine > when the content is a simple string, but when the content includes line breaks > (i.e. when cont

org-babel-load-languages usability issue

2022-09-05 Thread Tim Cross
I'm not sure when the definition of the variable org-babel-load-languages changed, but I think we may need to consider either reverting it or making some other adjustment. Originally, this variable was an alist of languages and a boolean indicating whether the language should be loaded e.g. '((

Re: org-babel-load-languages usability issue

2022-09-05 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm not sure when the definition of the variable >> org-babel-load-languages changed, but I think we may need to consider >> either reverting it or making some other adjustment. >> >> Originally, this

Re: org-babel-load-languages usability issue

2022-09-07 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> Well. There are actually languages below if you look into the source >>> code. Indeed, it is confusing in the help/customize buffer. We can fix >>> this, say, by adding the language list into the docstring its

Re: org-babel-load-languages usability issue

2022-09-09 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> We have [[info:org#Languages]] linking to >>> https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/index.html >>> I guess we can simply add the manual link to the docstring. Would it be >>> sufficient?

Re: Manual Ordering and Dynamic Priority

2022-09-09 Thread Tim Cross
Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> - Life is about getting things done, not planning to get things >> done. Overly complex management of your tasks is very likely to >> result in more time spent managing the tasks than actually doing >>

Re: [PATCH] ol.el: Restore complete by description for insert link

2022-09-10 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 06/09/2022 21:34, Max Nikulin wrote: >> Does anyone have an idea why it was necessary to drop completion of stored >> links based >> on their description for the sake of ido? > > I have no idea what is the proper way to enable ido for `org-insert-link'. > Functions an

Re: per-file (or, really, per buffer) allowing/disallowing code block execution

2022-09-12 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > Ihor, Fedja, et al., > > i think this is very good. > > my suggestion would be to *not* permanently mark a file as safe (i.e., i > would vote against org-confirm-babel-evaluate-safe-paths); rather, let a > local variable do that. i worry about keeping state in "side car

Re: org-assert-version considered harmful

2022-09-14 Thread Tim Cross
Stefan Monnier writes: >>> In my book step 3 above is a mistake (even if moved to step 2). >> I am confused. >> AFAIK, changing the load-path is a common way for users to install >> packages manually. > > No, you're not confused, I just think that installing packages manually > (including messi

Re: [BUG] Info JS does not work [9.5.3 (release_9.5.3-467-g2bd34e @ /Users/salutis/src/org-mode/lisp/)]

2022-09-21 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien writes: > >>> Also, having an actual mirror in sr.ht means that we may set up automatic >>> tests. WDYT about this idea? >> >> Tests are useful if they prevent contributors from changing the code >> in a way that break them: this must happen before pushing chan

Matrix (was Re: IM dev discussions?)

2022-09-22 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien writes: > Hi Ihor, > > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> This is an option. #emacs is very too noisy for me, but #org-mode >> appears to be fairly quiet. It may work. > > I agree with Russell that we should first use the available resources, > and our IRC chan on irc.libera.chat is a good on

Re: Suggested Syntax for cancelled checkboxes: [-] as non-blocking dependency

2022-09-22 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien writes: > Daniel Fleischer writes: > >> At first it makes sense, but we do have headlines and TODO keywords to >> express different states, colors and even sets of states. This is just a >> checklist construct. I think if I wanted to mark something as canceled >> or not relevant I woul

Re: Matrix (was Re: IM dev discussions?)

2022-09-22 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> One thing I do find frustrating these days is the fracturing of >> communications across so many different solutions. Makes me really miss >> newsgroups! It seems like almost every project I'm interested in these

Re: refresh not working for org-mode from git

2022-09-23 Thread Tim Cross
Colin Baxter writes: > Recently, if I use C-c C-x ! to refresh org-mode after a git pull, I get an > error. I then have to close down emacs and launch again. This rather > defeats the object of C-c C-x !. This appears to have happened only recently > > The Backtrace is > > --8<---cu

Re: IM dev discussions?

2022-09-23 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien writes: > Of course, time and skills (and other psychological traits) are the > main parameters deciding whether someone can participate to these > discussions: but the more they take place on the mailing list, the > more inclusive they are IMHO. > > (I know this opinion is debatable: m

Re: access to specific instance(s) of past recurring event(s)

2022-09-25 Thread Tim Cross
Mark Barton writes: >  > >> On Sep 25, 2022, at 5:44 AM, Saša Janiška wrote: >> >> When looking for some solution I've stumbled upon this (old) post >> https://karl-voit.at/2017/01/15/org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift/ which >> utilizes >> *org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift*. > > I also use

Re: Should page break (^L) work as paragraph element separator and be included into Org syntax? (was: [BUG] org-fill-paragraph doesn't handle ^L correctly [9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-19-g4dff42 @ /home/matt

2022-09-26 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 26/09/2022 18:39, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Should we add page break (^L) to our syntax? It sounds like a reasonable >> addition for a text-based markup. > > I do not have strong opinion. It is a control character while I prefer > explicit markup and > printable charact

Re: Org ML integration with an existing Discourse instance (was: IM dev discussions?)

2022-09-27 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Payas Relekar writes: > >> Perhaps we can check if it is indeed possible to bridge both Discourse >> and mailing list seamlessly (or close enough). There are some issues >> with extra chrome and clutter in discourse notifications, but these 2 >> links are what I found

Re: Org ML integration with an existing Discourse instance (was: IM dev discussions?)

2022-09-27 Thread Tim Cross
"Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 2:25 PM Tim Cross wrote: > >> Discourse is not free - either you have to pay or you have to self host. > > IIRC, it is for open source projects. > > Yes: > > https://blog.discourse.org/2018/11/free-

Re: org exported pdf files

2022-09-28 Thread Tim Cross
Jude DaShiell writes: > It was one of the messages from this list that got me that reply. For > now, when I get a pdf file I try extracting it with pdftotext and read the > extracted text. I don't make pdf files or make pdf files available for > anyone else. How adobe accessibility recommend

Re: org exported pdf files

2022-09-28 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > Hi Tim, > >> It would probably be good to add the two above packages as part of the >> ’default’ package preamble, but this would require considerable testing >> as it isn’t known if there will be adverse effects when mixed with other >> packages. > > Those packages are early

Re: Org HTML export accessibility (was: org exported pdf files)

2022-09-29 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Note that org also lacks any accessibility support for HTML generated >> documents as well. However, this is less problematic as authors do have >> some ability to add the necessary attributes that can improve >>

Re: org exported pdf files

2022-09-29 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi, Tim > > Tim Cross writes: > >> An unfortunate situation really - especially given Emacs has one of the >> most powerful and advanced accessibility options available via >> emacspeak. >> >> I also won't hold my brea

Re: org exported pdf files

2022-09-29 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 29/09/2022 00:08, Tim Cross wrote: >> 1. Org mode cannot be used to create accessible PDF documents as long as >> it depends on the latex environment to generate those documents. > > Are there free tools that can generate accessible PDF documents

Apology [was: Re: Org HTML export accessibility (was: org exported pdf files))

2022-09-29 Thread Tim Cross
Dear all, I think I owe everyone an apology. I have allowed frustration from another area of life colour my response here and as a result, my tone and assessment was too negative. While it is correct that we cannot use org mode to generate accessible PDFs and that does mean in environments wher

Re: [HELP] Fwd: Org format as a new standard source format for GNU manuals

2022-09-30 Thread Tim Cross
ustom markup elements. I am > referring to > 1. Ability to create new custom element types programmatically > 2. Ability to define how to :export the custom element types > > Similar to `org-link-set-parameters'. > > Patches and more concrete ideas are welcome! > > Fr

Re: [HELP] Fwd: Org format as a new standard source format for GNU manuals

2022-10-01 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Agree. Let's not go too far yet and focus on extending special blocks > and the inline special block element I propose. These topics (especially > for markup element with less edge cases) pop up on the Org ML from time > to time and worth looking into regardless whether

Re: [HELP] Help implementing org-lint/warnings buffer during export (was: Org HTML export accessibility (was: org exported pdf files))

2022-10-02 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> From an org-mode perspective, the key things which need to be maintained >> (and which perhaps we could make even easier or possibly have >> 'defaults') is the ability to add the alt attribute to any non-te

Re: Some links in online manual do not work

2022-10-02 Thread Tim Cross
Tim Landscheidt writes: > Hi, > > at https://orgmode.org/manual/HTML-Export.html, the links > for the first five (5) and the last two (2) subsections > work, the links for: > > - "Headlines in HTML export" > (https://orgmode.org/manual/Headlines-in-HTML-export.html) > - "Links in HTML export"

Re: [BUG] Undocumented convention for org-time-stamp-custom-formats to be "<...>" (was: time-stamp in DONE tag is not really displayed)

2022-10-24 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: > >> My time-stamps are of the form <2022-10-23 Sun> >> I have an entry like this >> >> - State "DONE" from "WAIT" [2022-10-23 21:06] \\ >> >> >> >> However it is displayed when I use org-toggle-time-stamp-overlays as >> [23.10.%] >> >

Re: GPL violation related to Org by priprietary app (was: Best android app)

2022-10-25 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Jean Louis writes: > >>> If it is true, could you please provide links to legal basis on from >>> GPL's and Swedish law's points of view? >> >> In my opinion the term "Org Mode" is collective trademark: >> >> Trademark FAQs | USPTO: >> https://www.uspto.gov/learning-an

Re: How ro delete DONE attemps

2022-10-25 Thread Tim Cross
Nick Dokos writes: > Renato Pontefice writes: > >> Hi, >> I’m wondering how can I delete, on my .org file, the line that have: >> - an old Timestamp (i.e. if I set a thing to be done today (<2022-10-24 Mon >> 17:26>) >> - a TODO item (always with a past date) <2022-10-24 Mon 17:26> >> >> That

Re: [BUG] Undocumented convention for org-time-stamp-custom-formats to be "<...>" (was: time-stamp in DONE tag is not really displayed)

2022-10-25 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> I propose to do the following: >>> 1. org-time-stamp-formats and org-time-stamp-custom-formats will be >>>treated as is, unless they contain "<" and ">" and the first and the >

Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly

2022-10-26 Thread Tim Cross
Stefan Kangas writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> The "problem" with shell links you are describing is a question of >> setting variables and is also disabled by default. >> >> eww-mode, when loading Org page, could simply set >> org-link-shell-confirm-function to its default value. > > Note

Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly

2022-10-26 Thread Tim Cross
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> If necessary, we can introduce a special variable in Org mode that will >> disable all the potential third-party code evaluation, even if user has >> customized Org to execute code without promp

Re: Error opening an .org file

2022-10-28 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Renato Pontefice writes: > >> I’ve edited and commented all the lines of it. And The error >> persist. So (was you told)maybe the error is not of init.el >> But I’m unable to run emacs from termnal. >> How can I do? >> I’m in

Re: Auto detect ob-clojure backend (was: [PATCH] Fix ob-clojure handling source block variable's value is a org-mode table or list)

2022-10-30 Thread Tim Cross
Daniel Kraus writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Daniel Kraus writes: >> >>> +(defcustom org-babel-clojure-backend (cond >>> + ((executable-find "bb") 'babashka) >>> + ((executable-find "nbb") 'nbb) >>> +

Re: [FR] Display stderr contents after executing shell blocks (even when stdout :results output is requested) (was: Org 9.6-pre and Bash sessions)

2022-10-30 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > >> Ihor Radchenko writes: >> >>> I do not think that it make sense to display that buffer when the code >>> finishes successfully. I can see this kind of behaviour >>> breaking/spamming automated scripts or export---code working in the >>> p

Re: Bug: html-postamble string does not allow space [9.4.4 (release_9.4.4 @ /usr/local/share/emacs/27.2/lisp/org/)]

2022-10-30 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Confirm. >> >> I am able to reproduce this issue with > > I might be missing something, but does > `org-export--parse-option-keyword' even support spaces inside values? > >> I also feel the manua

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