Re: [O] Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?

2017-02-17 Thread Edward John Steere
> It's not like packages communicate with Emacs over a well > defined RESTful interface. In other words: CEDET and Gnus are not > loosely coupled, quite the opposite: they are extremely dependend on > many obscure Emacs internals (not sure about Org). Shouldn't we be trying to avoid this situation

Re: [O] Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?

2017-02-17 Thread Edward John Steere
> > DE> This is a misunderstanding. I said I wanted to move support for certain > DE> languages and project types into ELPA, not CEDET core. I'm still of the > DE> opinion that moving it completely to ELPA is a mistake. > > It would only be a mistake if other parts of core need to use it. If only >

Re: [O] Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?

2017-02-17 Thread Edward John Steere
>>> they are extremely dependend on >>> many obscure Emacs internals (not sure about Org). >> >> Shouldn't we be trying to avoid this situation? It's sure to come back >> and bite us in the future. If we continue to develop a package >> (wherever it ends up being developed) which is so tightly co

Re: [O] Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?

2017-02-17 Thread Edward John Steere
>> - Suppose that Emacs 22.0 is the current release and Emacs 22.1 is then >>released; CEDET is at >> - we update a registry somewhere indicating that Emacs 22.0 works with >> and 22.1 works with >> >> - When we make updates to CEDET we mark 22.1 as working with >> but we don't

Re: [O] Using CEDET modules from Emacs core

2017-02-17 Thread Edward John Steere
>> Which CEDET features would we want to use from core? > > For one, I'd like to see more major modes come with support for Semantic > right in the major mode's own definition (rather than have it part of > CEDET). E.g. for Elisp mode, CC-mode, ... > > The idea is to get to the point where Semanti