Re: [PATCH] org-element-cache-map: Fix handling of continue-from

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Matthieu Caneill writes: > I'm hit by the following bug in `org-element-cache-map'. When I use > `tags' or `tags-todo' in an agenda, with the option > `(org-tags-match-list-sublevels nil)', all sub-elements of a matching > item are correctly skipped except the last one. > > It can be reproduced w

Re: Org mode timestamps on the Moon ; ] (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-01-30 Thread Greg Minshall
Tom, > The only generalized solution is to record the full location (see > intro to http://naggum.no/lugm-time.html which I'm surprised hasn't > been linked in this thread yet, ... very nice -- thanks for the pointer! cheers, Greg

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Greg Minshall
Ihor, Sterling, et al., just a thought/reminder. there are "semantics" and "encoding". a spec like ISO-8601 specifies both. the important thing for org-mode is to use an encoding that 1. is easily parsable/understandable by the mere mortal 2. allows expression of all the semantics of the unde

Re: [POLL] Use compat.el in Org? (was: Useful package? Compat.el)

2023-01-30 Thread Greg Minshall
Ihor, > Cons: > > 1. If compat.el happens to lack support of some function, we will need >to contribute to compat.el directly and synchronize Org releases with >compat.el releases. would a separate "org-compat.el" (in addition to compat.el) somehow solve this? (i worry about the synch'i

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Sterling Hooten writes: > This is an initial glossary compiled from various standards and sources; > it's incomplete, probably incorrect, and open to critique, but is useful > in articulating a possible road map forward. Do I understand correctly that the terms are simply taken from ISO (https:

Re: Org mode timestamps on the Moon ;] (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Tom Gillespie writes: > Oh boy. In short, I think we can only hope they come up with > LTC and we already have a syntactic space to say whether > our reference seconds are TAI/UTC/LTC/MTC/JTC etc. And > being the privileged squats that we are if the time system is > left out then it means UTC. Th

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Sterling Hooten writes: >> And we need to deviate from ISO 8601 anyway. At least, because it does >> not define time zones, only absolute UTC offsets. So, the ability to >> conform with the existing formats remains questionable. > > This is correct for the 2019 version of the ISO 8601. > > From m

Maintenance status of individual Org libraries

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Dear all, I have gone through the maintainers of individual Org files and, especially after Nicolas went missing from the list, the situation is rather dire. The following libraries have no maintainer or author active on the list: ob-comint, ob-core, ob-css, ob-ditaa, ob.el, ob-emacs-lisp, ob-ev

Re: diary-anniversary doesn'work om Mac osx 12.6.3

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Renato Pontefice writes: > I try to perform this simple line of emacs manual (this is the perfect page > of the manual where I took this: where I took this: "31.13.10 Sexp Entries > and the Fancy Diary Display”). Because trying to learn emacs I would try as > many entry possibile as I could (I

Re: org-crypt fails if default key is expired while non-default key is to be used

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Karl Voit writes: >> What is the return value of >> >> (epg-list-keys (epg-make-context nil t t) org-crypt-key) >> >> ? >> >> Does it show the right key? > > It shows: > > (#s(epg-key ultimate > (#s(epg-sub-key ultimate ... nil 1 4096 "ABC12345" 1515327255 nil > "...ABC12345"

Re: [BUG] ob-shell doesn't evaluate last line on Windows (cmd/cmdproxy) [9.6.1 ( @ c:/Users/Osher/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6.1/)]

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Matt writes: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 04:51:19 -0500 Ihor Radchenko wrote --- > > > This will add a newline to "cmdproxy.exe" command -> "cmdproxy.exe\n". > > You should instead look into `org-babel--write-temp-buffer-input-file'. > > I made the change in `org-babel--shell-command-on-regi

Patch for worg org-tools

2023-01-30 Thread Jakob Schöttl
Hi all, I got a patch for https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/index.html Does someone with access wants to apply it? - Jakob diff --git a/org-tools/index.org b/org-tools/index.org index eec65e77..44c2fe3c 100644 --- a/org-tools/index.org +++ b/org-tools/index.org @@ -19,6 +19,7 @@ This page l

Re: Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql (was: [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena)

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Richard Stallman writes: > > However, I gues the point remains, sql.el and ob-sql.el support a number > > of non-free RDMS > > Can someone post a verified list of which of them are non-free? > Someone posted a list of a few, which I cannot find now in my saved > inboxes, but I think it includ

Re: Inline markup: How does org identify nested code/verbatim?

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
writes: > The point is myself I'm able to identify code or verbatim with regex > including three catch groups for the content before, between and > after the inline markers. > > for verbatim: "(^|[ .,;:\-?!({\"'])=(.*?)=([ .,;:\-?!)}\"']|$)" > for code: "(^|[ .,;:\-?!({\"'])~(.*?)~([

Re: diary-anniversary doesn'work om Mac osx 12.6.3

2023-01-30 Thread Renato Pontefice
* Anniversaries %%(diary-anniversary 1948 01 30) Arthur's birthday (%d years old) %%(diary-anniversary 2023-01-30) Arthur's birthday (%d years old) <2023-01-30 Mon 15:53> Just this. The last line is made by C-u-c . To display the way my date are setted If I press C a a Emacs compose the agenda

[BUG] org-manual: Using bookmarklet for org-capture is no longer reliable (was: Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol)

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: To summarize, I believe that a browser extension is a safer way to use > org-protocol. With a native messaging helper application it is even > possible to avoid desktop-wide org-protocol configuration and to call > emacsclient directly by the add-on but not through links o

Re: diary-anniversary doesn'work om Mac osx 12.6.3

2023-01-30 Thread Gautier Ponsinet
Hello Renato, Renato Pontefice : > * Anniversaries > %%(diary-anniversary 1948 01 30) Arthur's birthday (%d years old) > > %%(diary-anniversary 2023-01-30) Arthur's birthday (%d years old) > > <2023-01-30 Mon 15:53> > Just this. The last line is made by C-u-c . > To display the way my date are s

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Greg Minshall
Ihor, > That's all nice but what a headache will it be to implement. What will > 2004-06~ mean for agenda, for example? i don't know the specific "2004-06~", but i do think that for the agenda (i assume), being able to express ambiguity to the user will be important. as people have pointed out (

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Greg Minshall writes: > i guess the third is what "2004-06~" might mean (i visualize, in > amusement, a very light pink background over all of June, with some > decay function coming earlier into May, later into July :). Maybe. But my point states - it is not trivial thing to implement. For cont

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Greg Minshall
Ihor, makes sense. that we probably need to *display* imprecision doesn't mean we need to accept/parse it.

Re: [BUG] ob-sql sql-connection-alist

2023-01-30 Thread Daniel Kraus
Hi! Andreas Gerler writes: > I added the missing changelog entry. Thanks. I installed the patch. (I'll also answer to your dbconnection engine mail soon. Just very busy atm) Thanks, Daniel

Re: [BUG] ob-shell doesn't evaluate last line on Windows (cmd/cmdproxy) [9.6.1 ( @ c:/Users/Osher/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6.1/)]

2023-01-30 Thread Matt
Pushed the change to `org-babel-eval'.

Re: diary-anniversary doesn'work om Mac osx 12.6.3

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Renato Pontefice writes: > * Anniversaries > %%(diary-anniversary 1948 01 30) Arthur's birthday (%d years old) > > %%(diary-anniversary 2023-01-30) Arthur's birthday (%d years old) > > <2023-01-30 Mon 15:53> > Just this. The last line is made by C-u-c . > To display the way my date are setted >

Re: Patch for worg org-tools

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jakob Schöttl writes: > I got a patch for > > https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/index.html > > Does someone with access wants to apply it? Thanks for the patch, but I am unable to apply it. May you follow https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#org045e318 ? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,

Re: [POLL] Use compat.el in Org? (was: Useful package? Compat.el)

2023-01-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Greg Minshall writes: >> 1. If compat.el happens to lack support of some function, we will need >>to contribute to compat.el directly and synchronize Org releases with >>compat.el releases. > > would a separate "org-compat.el" (in addition to compat.el) somehow > solve this? (i worry abo

Re: [POLL] Use compat.el in Org? (was: Useful package? Compat.el)

2023-01-30 Thread Greg Minshall
Ihor, > >> 1. If compat.el happens to lack support of some function, we will need > >>to contribute to compat.el directly and synchronize Org releases with > >>compat.el releases. > > > > would a separate "org-compat.el" (in addition to compat.el) somehow > > solve this? (i worry about th

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-29 09:33]: > On 29/01/2023 11:09, Jean Louis wrote: > > * Tim Cross [2023-01-28 00:15]: > > > > > • Offset (fixed) > > > > >• This captures the idea of "when did it happen for the person who > ^^^ > Jean, you missed it.

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-29 09:33]: > On 29/01/2023 11:09, Jean Louis wrote: > > * Tim Cross [2023-01-28 00:15]: > > > > > • Offset (fixed) > > > > >• This captures the idea of "when did it happen for the person who > ^^^ > Jean, you missed it.

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
Dear Thomas, I give my best to find references for you and explain you the possible problem in calculation of time stamps. That problems exist is clear. To solve problem it is important to first define it. And when there are developers reading it, I wish to provide best possible references for th

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-01-29 23:38]: > Yes, a timezone is defined by the offset it has from UTC Other way around Tim, the UTC offset is defined for the time zone. Time zone is not derived fro UTC offset, that does not work. UTC offset is derived from time zone. > Yes, a location time zone may change

Re: [POLL] Use compat.el in Org? (was: Useful package? Compat.el)

2023-01-30 Thread Daniel Mendler
On 1/30/23 20:40, Greg Minshall wrote: > i see, yes. i'm just thinking that, for a given release CUR (like i > know anything about org-mode release procedures!) we would use whatever > has been available in compat.el since release CUR-n (for whatever n we > use -- 2?), and supplement that, in org

Re: org-crypt fails if default key is expired while non-default key is to be used

2023-01-30 Thread Karl Voit
Hi Ihor, * Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Karl Voit writes: > >>> What is the return value of >>> >>> (epg-list-keys (epg-make-context nil t t) org-crypt-key) >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Does it show the right key? >> >> It shows: >> >> (#s(epg-key ultimate >> (#s(epg-sub-key ultimate ... nil 1 4096

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Tim Cross
Jean Louis writes: > * Tim Cross [2023-01-29 23:38]: >> Saying that an offset is a fixed value is very different from saying >> that a time zone has a fixed offset. I think this is where your >> confusion is coming from. > > I said neither of those. I never said that UTC offset is fixed. I am >

Re: Inline markup: How does org identify nested code/verbatim?

2023-01-30 Thread Tom Gillespie
In short, you cannot nest code in verbatim or verbatim in code because they are both terminal (end of the line for nesting). In fact you can't nest anything inside them by their very nature. Anything inside of them cannot have special functionality, even escape codes don't play well in that part o

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Jean Louis, Jean Louis writes: Dear Thomas, I give my best to find references for you and explain you the possible problem in calculation of time stamps. That problems exist is clear. To solve problem it is important to first define it. And when there are developers reading it, I w

Re: Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol

2023-01-30 Thread Samuel Wales
unable to follow this but it sounds like a big deal and i am glad that you are looking into it. thanks. [my use case fwiw: 1] it is disruptive for me having org-capture not work [i do not alwys use kb]. 2] x-wide capture using emacsclient would presumably not contain the page title in firefox. 3]

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-01-31 01:05]: > Jean, > > you have a very irritating habit of changing the topic of the discussion > in order to push whatever you feel you want to argue about. My response > to you had nothing to do with all the irrelevant points you insist on > repeating despite numerous attem

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
Dear Heinz, Thanks, let me see. * Heinz Tuechler [2023-01-31 01:02]: > Dear Jean Louis, > > it appears to me that you mix two aspects. I agree with you that a time > zone needs an offset from UTC to be defined. Consequently the definition > of a time zone requires an offset. Yes, that is good

[BUG] Emacs-29.0.60: (setopt org-babel-load-languages ...) may cause warnings

2023-01-30 Thread gerard . vermeulen
Hi, I have been replacing to calls to =custom-set-variables= with calls to the safer =setopt= (new in Emacs-29.0.60) and I discovered that calling src_emacs-lisp{(setopt org-babel-load-languages '((eshell t) (emacs-lisp t)))} raises a warning because =eshell= is missing from the =org-babel-lo