Re: [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates (easier template syntax)

I am pinging this thread again because I believe that doct syntax is much easier to write compared to current defaults. It should be added to Org core. Also, if anyone agrees with my arguments below, do not stay silent and drop a "+1" email below. Otherwise, this whole thing will be stalled. There

Re: [PATCH] lisp/org-capture.el: Add hook & hook options to org-capture (Valentin Herrmann)

No Wayman writes: >> I think Nicolas gave some reasonable comments, didn't he? He >> suggested >> to incorporate some of the ideas into the existing Org mode >> code. >> >> https://orgmode.org/list/87wo66t8i7@gmail.com > > I believe you're referring to: > > https://list.orgmode.org/87y2qlgq

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github

"Bradley M. Kuhn" writes: > I'd be glad to discuss how I've come to these assessments in more detail if > that's useful to the discussion. (However, I won't have time to check back > into this thread until Tuesday due to a deadline.) > > I generally recommend PayPal to projects that want to mini

[BUG] Hard-coded begin/end in org-insert-structure-template [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-24-g668205 @ /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/)]

Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org mailing list. ---

citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

I am sorry I have not followed the discussions recently. I had happily settled on org-cite but I find that much has changed again. In particular, John Kitchin has given up the work on org-ref-cite and switched back to org-ref. There is a new org-ref version 3.0 which is not compatible with org-cit

[PATCH] Re: [BUG] Hard-coded begin/end in org-insert-structure-template [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-24-g668205 @ /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/)]

Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > Inspired by Protesilaos Stavrou, I started using uppercase Org keywords. > I like the results so far, but I also noticed some inflexibility in the > Org mode. Specifically, the `org-insert-structure-template' procedure > hard-codes lowercase "begin_" and "end_". Thus,

Re: [BUG] Resolving idle clocks needs multiple keystrokes [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-24-g668205 @ /home/ignacio/repos/emacs/lisp/org/)]

> Hmm, I see the problem. I didn't think about that. > Thank you very much for your suggestion. But what about using > read-char-exclusive? It seems to have a timeout argument too, and > should apparently fix the issue (ie. the prompt will no longer > disappear at the first unintentional click).

Re: [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates (easier template syntax)

Hello, Ihor Radchenko writes: > I am pinging this thread again because I believe that doct syntax is > much easier to write compared to current defaults. It should be added to > Org core. > > Also, if anyone agrees with my arguments below, do not stay silent and > drop a "+1" email below. Otherw

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

Hello, Vikas Rawal writes: > This obviously creates many problems including that two people using > different citation systems cannot share org files. Indeed. > > What is the general view of the community about this? I don't know about the general view of the community, but, as a data point, I

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 8:09 AM Vikas Rawal wrote: > What is the general view of the community about this? Is there a > comprehensive discussion of pros and cons of each? Not really, but there's John's summary here: https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref#what-about-org-cite The high-level discus

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

Vikas Rawal writes: > What is the general view of the community about this? Is there a > comprehensive discussion of pros and cons of each? Prof. Kitchin himself provided a summary on why he decided to give up on using org-cite. See https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/issues/892 > What is every

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

> > > What is the general view of the community about this? > > I don't know about the general view of the community, but, as a data > point, I find it very sad. > Exactly how I feel. Particularly so because org-cite was indeed inspired from org-ref and all the great work John has done on this ove

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 10:08 AM Vikas Rawal wrote: >> >> > What is the general view of the community about this? >> >> I don't know about the general view of the community, but, as a data >> point, I find it very sad. > > > Exactly how I feel. Particularly so because org-cite was indeed inspired

Re: [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates (easier template syntax)

+1 as interested I saw this project a while ago https://github.com/progfolio/doct I was concerned about long term support and if I would be left with templates I would have to rewrite again, plus I was too busy at the time to adopt it and it stays in my list o

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

Ihor Radchenko writes: Vikas Rawal writes: What is the general view of the community about this? Is there a comprehensive discussion of pros and cons of each? Prof. Kitchin himself provided a summary on why he decided to give up on using org-cite. See https://github.com/jkitchin/org-r

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:42 AM Ihor Radchenko wrote: > For citar, why not simply using ivy-bibtex? It supports org-cite, AFAIK. Not really; or rather minimally. Ivy-bibtex supports, for example, inserting of org-cite citations, but not via org-cite-insert. So there are currently no org-cite p

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

“Thomas S. Dye” writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Vikas Rawal writes: >> >>> What is the general view of the community about this? Is there a >>> comprehensive discussion of pros and cons of each? >> >> Prof. Kitchin himself provided a summary on why he decided to give up on >> using org-ci

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

> > > > For what it’s worth, I use `org-ref` because fine-grained citation export > with > LaTeX (using BibTeX or BibLaTeX) only works with `org-ref`, and not with > `org-cite`. > It would help if you can explain what you mean. If I remember correctly, `org-cite` exports the formatted citations

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:21 PM Dominik Schrempf wrote: > For what it’s worth, I use `org-ref` because fine-grained citation export with > LaTeX (using BibTeX or BibLaTeX) only works with `org-ref`, and not with > `org-cite`. Part of the challenge is this isn't an apples-apples comparison; org-c

Re: [BUG] Resolving idle clocks needs multiple keystrokes [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-24-g668205 @ /home/ignacio/repos/emacs/lisp/org/)]

Thanks for your answer! I will do that as soon as I have a little more time. Ignacio Casso writes: >> Hmm, I see the problem. I didn't think about that. >> Thank you very much for your suggestion. But what about using >> read-char-exclusive? It seems to have a timeout argument too, and >> should

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

On Sunday, 20 March 2022 20:44:50 CET Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:42 AM Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > For citar, why not simply using ivy-bibtex? It supports org-cite, AFAIK. > > Not really; or rather minimally. I use `org-cite` with a very minimal configuration, and it works ve

Re: How do you manage complex project with Org-mode

Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> For example, I >> would not have a task which says to review my tasks twice a week. Do you >> really need a task to remind you to do this twice a week? Do you really >> need to track that you have done this? I would classify such tasks as >> 'noi

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

“Bruce D’Arcus” writes: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:21 PM Dominik Schrempf > wrote: > >> For what it’s worth, I use `org-ref` because fine-grained citation export >> with >> LaTeX (using BibTeX or BibLaTeX) only works with `org-ref`, and not with >> `org-cite`. > > Part of the challenge is this

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

I do not think it is productive for the community to say or consider it is a sad situation. Many good things have emerged from these discussions, even if it is not yet consensus on a solution. It is a complex problem, with many years of effort by many people on each side. That is an indication of h

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github

> "Bradley M. Kuhn" writes: > > I generally recommend PayPal to projects that want to minimize > > proprietary Javascript because you cn often make it all the way through a > > PayPal transaction (if you already have a PayPal account with a credit > > card attached and you're in the USA) with Ja

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

Hi John, Thanks for your considered response. When you contrast org-cite and org-ref, you say: > With org-ref, bib(la)tex export is almost fully supported, and is easy, I find this odd as org-cite supports bib(la)tex export, and rather easily. ┌ │ #+bibliography: references.bib │ #+cite_ex

Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

Dear John, Thanks very much for taking time to write a detailed reply. I do not think it is productive for the community to say or consider it > is a sad situation. >From the perspective of a user, this was only meant to express a sentiment that one finds oneself in a situation of having to cho

Fwd: Re: [BUG] [BUG] inconsistent behavior when reading multiple tags [9.4.6 (9.4.6-g366444 @ /home/n/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

Start of forwarded message From: Ihor Radchenko To: No Wayman Subject: Re: [BUG] [BUG] inconsistent behavior when reading multiple tags [9.4.6 (9.4.6-g366444 @ /home/n/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 18:26:52 +0800 This patch is