Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-16 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 19:26, autofrettage wrote: > The question triggers an old LaTeX reflex; If the layout tweak or > typography tune turns out to be very difficult to accomplish with > LaTeX (including all the mainstream add-ons), then the reason could be > that you ask for something which mo

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > Doing describe-face on the footnote I have "Background: unspecified" So org-footnote does not have a defined background, which is usual. You don't need to remove any background color. You should be seeing in your notes the backgrou

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 15, 2022, 10:23 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > >> It is much better now.  In Emacs, footnotes have a background  color.  I >> still >> can see the footnote background colour with ":background 'nil". >> > > What theme are you us

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > It is much better now.  In Emacs, footnotes have a background  color.  I > still > can see the footnote background colour with ":background 'nil". What theme are you using? Usually, org-footnote does not have a defined background

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 15, 2022, 09:16 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > >> That works well.  But although I am atttempting to remove the >> background and change the foreground colour, the old colours remain. >> >> (with-eval-after-load 'org >>   (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil >

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Tim Cross
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > Jan 15, 2022, 02:13 by e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk: > >> On Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 14:44, fatipa...@tutanota.com wrote: >> >>> I would like to include the customisation using elisp code >>> >> >> Have a look at, for instance, >> >> ,[

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > That works well.  But although I am atttempting to remove the > background and change the foreground colour, the old colours remain. > > (with-eval-after-load 'org >   (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil > :foreground "d2691e" :background 'nil :underline 'ni

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 15, 2022, 08:41 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > >> But this is giving "error: Invalid face, org-footnote" >> > > Try this (I forgot to mention this, sorry): > > (with-eval-after-load 'org > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground "d2691e" :height 0.8

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > Is this requirement just associated with org-footnote, as it is not usual to > use "with-eval-after-load" > to apply customisations. It's a face defined by org, and org must be loaded before. You can also put before, simply, (requi

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 15, 2022, 08:41 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > >> But this is giving "error: Invalid face, org-footnote" >> > > Try this (I forgot to mention this, sorry): > > (with-eval-after-load 'org > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground "d2691e" :height 0.8 >

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > But this is giving "error: Invalid face, org-footnote" Try this (I forgot to mention this, sorry): (with-eval-after-load 'org (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground "d2691e" :height 0.8 :extend t :underline "red"))

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 15, 2022, 08:00 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > >> What is the face name associated with inline footnotes? >> > > M-x describe-face RET Is your friend. Place the cursor on any inline > note, run this command and you will see that

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > What is the face name associated with inline footnotes? M-x describe-face RET Is your friend. Place the cursor on any inline note, run this command and you will see that the face you need to modify is called `org-footnote'. M-: (in

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 15, 2022, 02:13 by e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk: > On Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 14:44, fatipa...@tutanota.com wrote: > >> I would like to include the customisation using elisp code >> > > Have a look at, for instance, > > ,[ C-h f set-face-foreground RET ] > | set-face-foreground is an interactive nativ

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread autofrettage
Dear all, I skimmed through most of the answers, so forgive me if the following has already been said. The question triggers an old LaTeX reflex; If the layout tweak or typography tune turns out to be very difficult to accomplish with LaTeX (including all the mainstream add-ons), then the reas

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 14:44, fatipa...@tutanota.com wrote: > I would like to include the customisation using elisp code Have a look at, for instance, ,[ C-h f set-face-foreground RET ] | set-face-foreground is an interactive native compiled Lisp function in | ‘faces.el’. | | (set-face-fo

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 15, 2022, 01:30 by e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk: > On Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 14:03, fatipa...@tutanota.com wrote: > >> How can I remove the background and underline for footnotes, and change >> foreground colour. >> > > M-x customize-face RET org-footnote RET > > and adapt as you see fit? > I would like

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 14:03, fatipa...@tutanota.com wrote: > How can I remove the background and underline for footnotes, and change > foreground colour. M-x customize-face RET org-footnote RET and adapt as you see fit? -- : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.2-298-g1f48d2 in Emacs 29.0.50

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 21:41 by e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk: > On Thursday, 13 Jan 2022 at 21:39, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > >> I think a custom link would suffice for text within the paragraph. A >> quick example: >> > > Very nice example. Thank you. > > Custom links are excellent for this kind of behaviour tunin

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 13 Jan 2022 at 21:39, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > I think a custom link would suffice for text within the paragraph. A > quick example: Very nice example. Thank you. Custom links are excellent for this kind of behaviour tuning while being portable if the link definition is included

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 13:55 by yanta...@gmail.com: > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." > writes: > >> A problem with footnote is that only the [fn:1] gets coloured.  >> >> [fn:1] This is a footnote >> > > Are you talking about 1 in footnote¹ being colored when using LaTeX > export?

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Ihor Radchenko
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > A problem with footnote is that only the [fn:1] gets coloured.  > > [fn:1] This is a footnote Are you talking about 1 in footnote¹ being colored when using LaTeX export? If so, it is a matter of your \hypersetup options. > Have a

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Ihor Radchenko
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > The basic problem with footnote is the requirement for the footnote marker > to be incolumn 0, no indentation allowed. > Are there other altornatives?  Any tags to change colour.  Would need some > examples. You can use inline foo

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 11:08 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > >> but with the variation that the text is also within the square brackets >> > > You can use inline footnotes, but I'm afraid you couldn't stop using > "fn" here (unless you hack the Org code). However you can us

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > but with the variation that the text is also within the square brackets You can use inline footnotes, but I'm afraid you couldn't stop using "fn" here (unless you hack the Org code). However you can use a convention, something like: Lorem[fn:mg1:blah blah blah]

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 09:39 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > >> If I do something in emacs-lisp I would still need some form of >> containment characters. >> > > I think a custom link would suffice for text within the paragraph. A > quick example: > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp >

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 09:27 by theophil...@gmail.com: > > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." > writes: > >> In org-mode one can use the emphasizing tags >> >> *word*   /word/   _word_ >> >> Is there anything to perform the opposite, playing down the text? >> > > > No, there are no

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 09:27 by theophil...@gmail.com: > > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." > writes: > >> In org-mode one can use the emphasizing tags >> >> *word*   /word/   _word_ >> >> Is there anything to perform the opposite, playing down the text? >> > > > No, there are no s

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Tim Cross
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > In org-mode one can use the emphasizing tags > > *word*   /word/   _word_ > > Is there anything to perform the opposite, playing down the text? No, there are no syntax elements in org mode to do this. Part of the challenge he

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > If I do something in emacs-lisp I would still need some form of > containment characters. I think a custom link would suffice for text within the paragraph. A quick example: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (defface smaller '((t :foreground "#8D8D84" :height 0.9))

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 08:20 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > >> I am discussing something slightly different. >> >> Here is normal text within -which there is some understated text- before >> continuing with normal text. >> > > Yes, it seems that I have understood you horribl

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 08:20 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > >> I am discussing something slightly different. >> >> Here is normal text within -which there is some understated text- before >> continuing with normal text. >> > > Yes, it seems that I have understood you horribl

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatipa...@tutanota.com writes: > I am discussing something slightly different. > > Here is normal text within -which there is some understated text- before > continuing with normal text. Yes, it seems that I have understood you horribly wrong, sorry for the noise (it must be the effects of the t

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 07:42 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > >> _a geographical region that corresponds to present-day Israel and Palestine_ >> I have used the _ for underlining.  This could hove been misleading, because I do not want normal

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 07:42 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > >> _a geographical region that corresponds to present-day Israel and Palestine_ >> > > In any case, from a strictly (ortho)typographical point of view this is a > matter of nesting e

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 07:22 by jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu: > You might check out my scimax-editmarks package. You can create bracket > syntax like that which can be fontified, e.g. made smaller, lighter, etc. to > de-emphasize. It is not org-syntax, and uses a pre-processing step on export, > but if all y

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 07:19 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > John Kitchin writes: > >> It depends on what you mean. I can't think of a standard markup for >> de-emphasis. You could imply it with color perhaps, e.g. some shade of >> grey, or size by making it smaller. At least for LaTex/HTML, both of >> those

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > _a geographical region that corresponds to present-day Israel and Palestine_ In any case, from a strictly (ortho)typographical point of view this is a matter of nesting emphasis. If what you want to do is highlight a word within ano

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread John Kitchin
You might check out my scimax-editmarks package. You can create bracket syntax like that which can be fontified, e.g. made smaller, lighter, etc. to de-emphasize. It is not org-syntax, and uses a pre-processing step on export, but if all you want is visual syntax in org-mode, something like this mi

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
John Kitchin writes: > It depends on what you mean. I can't think of a standard markup for > de-emphasis. You could imply it with color perhaps, e.g. some shade of > grey, or size by making it smaller. At least for LaTex/HTML, both of > those can be done. You would either need to use something li

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
Jan 14, 2022, 06:50 by maciasch...@posteo.net: > Hi, > > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > >> Is there anything to perform the opposite, playing down the text? >> > > Are you referring to nested emphasis, something like in LaTeX > > \emph{foo \emph{bar} baz} > > =

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread John Kitchin
It depends on what you mean. I can't think of a standard markup for de-emphasis. You could imply it with color perhaps, e.g. some shade of grey, or size by making it smaller. At least for LaTex/HTML, both of those can be done. You would either need to use something like a macro, or a link for some

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Hi, fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > Is there anything to perform the opposite, playing down the text? Are you referring to nested emphasis, something like in LaTeX \emph{foo \emph{bar} baz} = foo...baz in italic; bar in normal font? Best regards, Juan Manuel

Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
In org-mode one can use the emphasizing tags *word*   /word/   _word_ Is there anything to perform the opposite, playing down the text?