Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hello, T.F. Torrey writes: > Jambunathan K writes: > >> Meanwhile, someone should fix up the FSF assignment notice on those >> files. As far as I am concerned, it is a routine housekeeping thing and >> hasn't taken effect. I am not assigning any copyright to FSF. > > Section 1a of the copyrig

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread T.F. Torrey
Jambunathan K writes: > Meanwhile, someone should fix up the FSF assignment notice on those > files. As far as I am concerned, it is a routine housekeeping thing and > hasn't taken effect. I am not assigning any copyright to FSF. Section 1a of the copyright assignment agreement is very specifi

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Jambunathan K writes: > Carsten Dominik writes: > >> We will see in how far the FSF will follow your arguments and what >> will happen when we merge 8.0 into the Emacs distribution. So I don't >> see a reason to hold up the 8.0 release. With respect to Emacs, we >> will have time to resolve th

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Jambunathan K
Check with Nicolas and see to what percentage he agrees with what is shown down below as on that particular date. Jay Kerns writes: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: > [snip] > >> Nevertheless my suggestion to the Org community is to respect your wish >> and move these

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Jambunathan K
Carsten Dominik writes: > We will see in how far the FSF will follow your arguments and what > will happen when we merge 8.0 into the Emacs distribution. So I don't > see a reason to hold up the 8.0 release. With respect to Emacs, we > will have time to resolve the issue one way or another. Me

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Rustom Mody
> > A child with Asperger’s syndrome may notice that a woman in the line at > the supermarket checkout is obese, and remark, in his or her usual tone of > voice and volume, that the lady is fat and needs to go on a diet. The > child’s opinion is that she should be grateful for the observation and >

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Bastien
Hi all, there is no reason not to include ox-html.el and ox-odt.el into Org 8.0. As for their inclusion into Emacs, we will have time to sort this out. Thanks, -- Bastien

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Jay Kerns
Dear Carsten, I certainly support your position. And if *anybody's* wishes should be honoured, I would think yours should be at the top of that list, along with the wishes of the other (at least) 4 copyright holders' of ox-html.el. Cheers, Jay On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Carsten Dominik

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Carsten Dominik
On 11.3.2013, at 05:08, Jambunathan K wrote: > > Even if my combative positioning doesn't amount to anything much, I want > to throw in a little friction by the way of Bastien and the current > release. I am stating my purpose in no uncertain terms - yes it is to > delay the release or cause co

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Jay Kerns
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: [snip] > Nevertheless my suggestion to the Org community is to respect your wish > and move these two files to contrib... [snip] I have to say I think Achim is really on the right track, here. Also for those interested in a bit of historical

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Jambunathan K writes: > I would like to remove ox-html.el from Org distribution. My > relationship with ox-html.el is a bit complicated and I am not sure how > far I can go forward on this front. Legal questions aside, which I'm not qualified to answer, here's a german proverb: "Geschenkt is ge

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Jambunathan, Jambunathan K writes: > > Even if my combative positioning doesn't amount to anything much, I want > to throw in a little friction by the way of Bastien and the current > release. I am stating my purpose in no uncertain terms - yes it is to > delay the release or cause confus

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
Christopher Schmidt writes: > Detlef Steuer writes: >> But: The papers the FSF asked you to sign were constructed for exactly >> this case I assume. > > That's not right. > > https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html > > I am not a copyright lawyer. So is everyone else subscribed to this

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 11/03/13 06:30, Christopher Schmidt wrote: Detlef Steuer writes: But: The papers the FSF asked you to sign were constructed for exactly this case I assume. That's not right. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html I am not a copyright lawyer. So is everyone else subscribed to

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Christopher, Christopher Schmidt writes: > #+BEGIN my2cents > If Jambunathan does not want code he wrote to be part of Org any more, > I'd respect his wish. At first sight this is a loss for Org. This > does not need to be the end, though. GSoC is coming up, rewriting > specific exporte

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Christopher Schmidt
Detlef Steuer writes: > But: The papers the FSF asked you to sign were constructed for exactly > this case I assume. That's not right. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html I am not a copyright lawyer. So is everyone else subscribed to this list. The FSF's copyright clerk should as

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Andreas Röhler
Am 10.03.2013 19:55, schrieb Detlef Steuer: I am willing to go as far is humanly possible for me to have my displeasure registered. Dear Jambunathan, your displeasure is very well registered by the hundreds or even thousands of readers of this list. It is very sad to see an obviously very

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Detlef Steuer
> I am willing to go as far is humanly possible for me to have my > displeasure registered. > Dear Jambunathan, your displeasure is very well registered by the hundreds or even thousands of readers of this list. It is very sad to see an obviously very gifted and energetic programmer going in

[O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
I would like to remove ox-html.el from Org distribution. My relationship with ox-html.el is a bit complicated and I am not sure how far I can go forward on this front. I am willing to go as far is humanly possible for me to have my displeasure registered. --