Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-08 Thread Bastien
If the patch I sent in this thread does not raise problems, I suggest we simply offer an option to let the user decide whether he wants the flags to be changed or not. Please continue testing the patch and report any problem, I'll do so myself. -- Bastien

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread François Pinard
Achim Gratz writes: > François Pinard writes: >> Org could tell Gnus that I am not really reading an article as if I was >> using Gnus interactively. > You keep saying that; while clearly you could coerce Gnus into doing > something like that I'm not sure Gnus would entertain to listen to > suc

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread Achim Gratz
François Pinard writes: > Org could tell Gnus that I am not really reading an article as if I was > using Gnus interactively. You keep saying that; while clearly you could coerce Gnus into doing something like that I'm not sure Gnus would entertain to listen to such a request. This is probably be

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread Nick Dokos
Joseph Vidal-Rosset writes: > 2014/1/7 François Pinard > > I'm far from being sure, but if I wanted to use Org as a mean to write > HTML or PDF as message attachments, I would think it could be done with > a very moderate amount of Emacs Lisp customization.  Unless mistaken, > th

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014/1/7 François Pinard > I'm far from being sure, but if I wanted to use Org as a mean to write > HTML or PDF as message attachments, I would think it could be done with > a very moderate amount of Emacs Lisp customization. Unless mistaken, > the Org editor to HTML might yield its output in a

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread François Pinard
Nick Dokos writes: > I suspect however that my arguments are going to convince you just as > much as your arguments have convinced me :-) Hi, Nick. You know, it always has been a pleasure corresponding with you, and enjoying your respectful attitude. In the case here, I'm not so trying to conv

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread François Pinard
Joseph Vidal-Rosset writes: > Org uses Gnus, is it possible of making uses of Org via Gnus? [...] > Is it already possible to do that with Org and Gnus, or not? If it is > not possible at the moment, would it be possible? Gnus and Org are both open source and very capable systems, both in them

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread François Pinard
Rasmus writes: > Say you have a mail X that's semi-interesting. Do you then, read it, > mark it as unread, close the buffer, go back later, read it again and > unread it? I once used Gnus as a reader who tremendously helped me at handling the high email volume of email I got when I maintained m

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread François Pinard
Bastien writes: > I attach a patch to see if it does what you want. This is from a > quick exploration, and while testing it, somes links to gwene.org blog > entries were throwing a 501 error message (but still display the > article.) Take it as a basis for clarifying the discussion, not > real

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread Joseph Vidal-Rosset
Hello François (bonjour Montréal), hello the list, I do not want to be rude in asking a newbie question in this thread about Gnus and Org. But I would be happy to know if the thing to what I think exists or not, and it is a possible thing or not. Le mar.07 janv.2014 à06

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread Rasmus
Hi François, François Pinard writes: > The list gnus-mark-article-hook, which is there for customization, has > the function gnus-summary-mark-read-and-unread-as-read by default. I > guess that if the hook list was empty, articles would be displayed and > not automatically marked as read. Yeah

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread Nick Dokos
François Pinard writes: > Nick Dokos writes: > >> François Pinard writes: > >>> Whenever I visit a "gnus:" type link from Org, it has the side effect of >>> "reading" the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to "unread" it each >>> time afterwards. > >> it's certainly not lost: the link continu

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-07 Thread Bastien
Hi François, François Pinard writes: > One possibility (untested, so I'm not sure) is that when following a > "gnus:" link, Org could use something like: > >(let ((gnus-mark-article-hook nil)) > (ACCESS-THE-gnus:-LINK)) I attach a patch to see if it does what you want. This is from a

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-06 Thread François Pinard
Rasmus writes: > Thanks for working on org-grep. It looks interesting. Thanks for thanking! :-) But deep down, I'm really doing this tool for myself, and only then share it with others. Given the amount of notes I handle, such a tool is inescapable, it is a question of survival :-). >> Whenev

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-06 Thread François Pinard
Nick Dokos writes: > François Pinard writes: >> Whenever I visit a "gnus:" type link from Org, it has the side effect of >> "reading" the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to "unread" it each >> time afterwards. > it's certainly not lost: the link continues to work, even if it points > to a

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-06 Thread Rasmus
Hi François, Thanks for working on org-grep. It looks interesting. Excuse me if I misunderstood something below. François Pinard writes: > Whenever I visit a "gnus:" type link from Org, it has the side effect of > "reading" the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to "unread" it each > time a

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-06 Thread Nick Dokos
François Pinard writes: > Whenever I visit a "gnus:" type link from Org, it has the side effect of > "reading" the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to "unread" it each > time afterwards. If I forget to unread it, which is a likely error, the > article will not be shown if I later visit its m

[O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-06 Thread François Pinard
Hi, Org people. Still playing with one of my little tools (called org-grep), I added the capability of searching Unix mailbox (producing "rmail:" links) and Gnus mailgroups (producing "gnus:" links). This resurrected an old "gnus:" annoyance I once reported on this mailing list, yet without being