Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-24 Thread Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
Thomas S. Dye writes: AFAIK, the only software that has proposed a solution to the problem of maintaining a citation database that can support the universe of citation styles developed "in the wild" is BibLaTeX. Well with BibTeX alone you can maintain a citation database and to support any

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Vaidheeswaran C writes: > On Tuesday 24 February 2015 11:37 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, >> >> Vaidheeswaran C writes: >> >>> On Tuesday 24 February 2015 10:31 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Vaidheeswaran C writes: > Often times there is a difference between what

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Tuesday 24 February 2015 11:37 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, Vaidheeswaran C writes: On Tuesday 24 February 2015 10:31 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Vaidheeswaran C writes: Often times there is a difference between what is possible and what is the common practice. So, 1

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, Vaidheeswaran C writes: > On Tuesday 24 February 2015 10:31 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> Vaidheeswaran C writes: >> >>> Often times there is a difference between what is possible and what is >>> the common practice. So, >>> >>> 1. How often do you intermix in-text and par

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Tuesday 24 February 2015 10:31 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Vaidheeswaran C writes: Often times there is a difference between what is possible and what is the common practice. So, 1. How often do you intermix in-text and parenthetical styles. Every day? Ok. 2. Can the document author re

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Vaidheeswaran C writes: > Often times there is a difference between what is possible and what is > the common practice. So, > > 1. How often do you intermix in-text and parenthetical styles. Every day? > 2. Can the document author re-word his work in such a way that an >in-text or parenthe

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Tuesday 24 February 2015 04:55 AM, Richard Lawrence wrote: Vaidheeswaran C writes: But whatever style is chosen, I would still think that the fact that the citation is in-text rather than parenthetical, and that it has a prefix and suffix, should be represented in the output. 1. When you

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Tuesday 24 February 2015 08:56 AM, Alexis wrote: For examle, one might have a citation style like: [Smith 2001] which in certain contexts is expected to have a presentation style of 'bolded'. So what i understand Vaidheeswaran to be asking is: Please don't code things such that presentation

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Alexis
On 2015-02-24T10:25:39+1100, Richard Lawrence said: RL> Vaidheeswaran C writes: >>> But whatever style is chosen, I would still think that the >>> fact that the citation is in-text rather than parenthetical, >>> and that it has a prefix and suffix, should be represented in >>> the output. >

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Richard Lawrence
Vaidheeswaran C writes: >> But whatever style is chosen, I would still think that the fact that the >> citation is in-text rather than parenthetical, and that it has a prefix >> and suffix, should be represented in the output. > > 1. When you choose 'style' (Chicago etc.) wouldn't be one of in-te

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-23 Thread Richard Lawrence
Vaidheeswaran writes: >> We haven't really discussed how styles should be specified (yet), or the >> formatting of bibliographies. But we have been discussing a syntax that >> lets you specify those formatting properties which commonly differ >> between individual citations. > > IMO, it is bette

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-22 Thread Vaidheeswaran
More importantly I see Nicolas willing to make the necessary modifications to export engine. Let us JUST ACCEPT what Nicolas is saying and work from there. Otherwise, the current momentum will peter out (much like earlier initiatives). For now, if each of us could just step back a little and

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-22 Thread Vaidheeswaran
On Monday 23 February 2015 09:41 AM, Richard Lawrence wrote: Hi Vaidheeswaran, Thanks for your input about citations! Vaidheeswaran writes: Those working on the citation syntax should make it clear that the "lowest common" cite syntax does NOT also IMPOSE (or GUARANTEE) a specific style on

Re: [O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-22 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Vaidheeswaran, Thanks for your input about citations! Vaidheeswaran writes: > Those working on the citation syntax should make it clear that the > "lowest common" cite syntax does NOT also IMPOSE (or GUARANTEE) a > specific style on the produced document. > > When I say this, I specifically

[O] Citation syntax and ODT

2015-02-21 Thread Vaidheeswaran
Those working on the citation syntax should make it clear that the "lowest common" cite syntax does NOT also IMPOSE (or GUARANTEE) a specific style on the produced document. When I say this, I specifically mean: 1. I want my citation and references to be carried over FAITHFULLY to the export